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prophecynut
08-06-2005, 11:09 PM
Why is Israel and America blessed by God
Because Adam listened to Eve and ate from the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil" the ground became cursed, he would now have to cultivate the ground to survive. Among the desired crops "thorns and thistles" would grow making it difficult and frustrating to sustain himself (Gen. 3:18). This curse on the Land will be removed when Israel is restored during the Millennium; the pine tree will grow instead of the thornbush and the myrtle will grow instead of briers (Isa. 55:13).
Native to Israel is the myrtle, which is a symbol of God's favour and generosity towards Israel.
The only other country native to the myrtle is America, it grows along the coast in northern California and in southern Oregon. God has also shown favour and generosity towards America, no other nation has received a greater portion of God's blessings.
God delivered his people from Eyptian bondage and brought them "into a good and spacious land, a land flowing with milk and honey" (Exo. 3:8).
"Milk and honey" is a symbol of Israel's bounty, He blessed his people with husbandry prosperity and abundant material resources.
In a scathing prophecy on America's destruction, she will no longer "enjoy the streams, the rivers flowing with honey and cream" (Job 20:17). Cream is richer than milk; God has given America a greater bounty of husbandry prosperity and abundant material resources than He did for Israel.
Why are these two nations favoured by God above the others? The answer is in God choosing the Israelites to composed the Word of God and choosing the Church in America to spread the gospel through out the world.
Israel's holy city is Jerusalem, what city in America compares to Jerusalem?
Joseph_Botwinick
08-06-2005, 11:21 PM
Nashville? graemlins/laugh.gif
We have no holy city in America.
The destruction of these United States is nowhere to be found in the Scriptures.
The modern State of Israel has no connection to Old Testament Israel except for both being populated mainly by descendants of Abraham.
Myrtle trees in these United States have nothing to do with God having blessed our great nation.
God is sovereign and He decides whom to bless and when and where according to His own purposes.
Joseph_Botwinick
08-06-2005, 11:23 PM
Ken,
It is in Nashville. Just ask any good Southern Baptist. graemlins/laugh.gif
Originally posted by Joseph_Botwinick:
Nashville? How about Dallas? After all, the Dallas Cowboys have been known as "America's team", and some folks say, in jest of course, that they left that hole in Texas Stadium so that God can watch the Cowboys play. :D
Ps104_33
08-07-2005, 08:28 AM
How about Miami? Thats where all the blessed Jews go to retire.
Grasshopper
08-07-2005, 04:45 PM
Israel's holy city is Jerusalem, what city in America compares to Jerusalem? Norman Oklahoma every saturday in the fall. graemlins/thumbs.gif
prophecynut
08-07-2005, 05:57 PM
Never, never on a Saturday or in the fall.
BobRyan
08-07-2005, 07:56 PM
I vote for Nashville or Chattanooga -- or Ashville NC
prophecynut
08-08-2005, 09:09 AM
Yesterday I made a purchase and got back in change a quarter of a particular state, the geographical image on the back gave further evidence of the similarity of this city to Jerusalem and its state to Israel. Also the US is geographically similar to the Middle East in its layout only greatly expanded.
US has temporarily replaced Israel as God's most favored nation; in the Millennium Israel will reign supreme over all nations.
What state is it?
Matt Black
08-08-2005, 10:00 AM
Prophecynut, you are aptly named :eek:
Yours in Christ
Matt
Gold Dragon
08-08-2005, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by prophecynut:
Why is Israel and America blessed by God
Israel, Europe, America and all Christians are blessed by God to be a blessing to others.
NASB - Gen 1:28 (http://www.studylight.org/desk/?l=en&query=Genesis+1%3A28§ion=0&translation=nas&oq=ge%252012&new=1&nb=ge&ng=12&ncc=12)
God blessed them; and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over every living thing that moves on the earth. NASB - Gen 12:2-3 (http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=ge+12&t=nas&st=1&new=1&l=en)
And I will make you a great nation,
And I will bless you,
And make your name great;
And so you shall be a blessing;
And I will bless those who bless you,
And the one who curses you I will curse.
And in you all the families of the earth will be blessed. NASB - Galatians 3:8-9 (http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=ga+3&t=nas&st=1&new=1&l=en)
The Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, "ALL THE NATIONS WILL BE BLESSED IN YOU." So then those who are of faith are blessed with Abraham, the believer.
ascund
08-08-2005, 10:27 AM
Greetings
Originally posted by Gold Dragon:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by prophecynut:
Europe, America and all Christians are blessed by God to be a blessing to others.
I'm not disagreeing per se. But I always thought that America was blessed, in part, for supporting Israel - the apple of God's eye.
The other part is Christian ethics, morality, and theology. But the USA has let all of these aspects go. If we ever sever our ties with Israel, bad things will happen here.
Just a thought. God doesn't come consulting with me - ever.
Lloyd
Kiffen
08-08-2005, 10:35 AM
Where is the Biblical proof that the USA is God's chosen people? Someone else might say Japan, South Korea or Denmark is with as much Biblical proof which of course is none.
Originally posted by ascund:
But I always thought that America was blessed, in part, for supporting Israel - the apple of God's eye. No. Support of the modern political State of Israel is not necessary for anyone to be blessed by God.
America, as a nation, was blessed by God for over 170 years before there was even a modern political State of Israel in which the vast majority of the citizens do not believe that Jesus is the Son of God and have not come to Him in repentance and faith. I don't see how the United States would be blessed simply because we support a country where most of the people are in rebellion towards God.
prophecynut
08-08-2005, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by Kiffen:
Where is the Biblical proof that the USA is God's chosen people? The Church, composed of Gentiles and Jews are God's chosen people within the USA and the world. America sends out 95-97% of the missionaries/apostles who preach the gospel in the whole world. God has blessed this nation with prosperity and conditions conducive to this task.
BobRyan
08-08-2005, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by KenH:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by ascund:
But I always thought that America was blessed, in part, for supporting Israel - the apple of God's eye. No. Support of the modern political State of Israel is not necessary for anyone to be blessed by God.
America, as a nation, was blessed by God for over 170 years before there was even a modern political State of Israel in which the vast majority of the citizens do not believe that Jesus is the Son of God and have not come to Him in repentance and faith. I don't see how the United States would be blessed simply because we support a country where most of the people are in rebellion towards God. </font>[/QUOTE]Good points.
Paul of Eugene
08-14-2005, 12:12 AM
Of course our nation has been blessed by God. And of course our nation can have that blessing taken away, just because our nation parts from God. And God will ultimately have His way with this world, regardless of how the USA lines up for Him or against Him.
Briony-Gloriana
08-14-2005, 01:43 AM
Goodness Me, I must amuse my fellows at work with this one,
How can you be so BLIND.....you government has got its properganda down pittypat................
lol
prophecynut
08-14-2005, 01:08 PM
Goodness Me, Australia is calling, heard you got snow in the southern parts, got skies?
You are on phase one, ridicule, next comes opposition and then acceptance. BTW our corrupt and evil government is not involved, it did now create the heavens and earth or does it bring rain to the earth. Have a nice day or night in the Lord.
Joseph_Botwinick
08-15-2005, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by Joseph_Botwinick:
Ken,
It is in Nashville. Just ask any good Southern Baptist. graemlins/laugh.gif I have been thinking about this whole holy land thing, and have changed my mind about Nashville. Here is why:
1. It seems to me that if we were to declare part of the United States to be holy lands, that our enemies the terrorists, would like to taget those sites for attack.
2. Nashville is just a little too close to me for comfort.
3. Therefore, I would like to declare the following cities Holy Sites for the United States: Boston, San Francisco, and Hollywood. :D
Joseph Botwinick
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