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PreachTREE
03-23-2006, 06:16 AM
hello BB people! it has been awhile since the last time i have been on here! anyways, what should a pastor do if he did not have a formal Bible education? My father obtained most of his Bible knowledge from his local church where he served as deacon and sunday school teacher. He was in the navy for 20 years and is currently leading a small (national) church for almost 5 years now; he did not have the opportunity to finish his undergrad and thus cannot take grad work. A current Bible student, i know the importance of a solid Bible program. What are his best options? thanks for your help guys!

dh1948
03-23-2006, 07:27 AM
A Bible institute may be a viable option for he and others who do not have an undergraduate degree.

I believe I am correct in saying that most Bible institutes have courses of study that lead to diplomas rather than degrees.

North Carolina Tentmaker
03-23-2006, 10:43 AM
There are a number of good opportunities for College level study.

I would recommend the Seminary Extension program of the SBC. I started my education with them. Where we were living at the time there was an active extension program with real professors that met at night. You can also take the classes by correspondance. When I then switched to an undergraduate program at a Bible college I received full credit for every class I took through Seminary Extension.

For more information check out

http://www.seminaryextension.org/

North Carolina Tentmaker
03-23-2006, 10:53 AM
You don't have to be SBC to take Seminary Extension classes. The real classroom classes I took included pastors of SBC, IFB (like me), AME, UME, PCA, and non denominational churches. They are fully acredited classes that will transfer anywhere.

Jim1999
03-23-2006, 01:33 PM
Back in the 40's and 50's, most of the Baptist pastors in Canada had only Bible College training. They then learned in the field...no degrees. A few managed to go to seminary and earned the highest degree they could earn in those days, a Bth. We all managed to get the job done back then.

I would say, if this man is already ordained to ministry, and with that many years in service, I shouldn't worry about a fancy degree.

In Canada, even men without a high school diploma can enter a university as a mature student. It is a tough go, but many have done it.

It is not so much the schooling one has had, but what he does with it.

Cheers, and best wishes,

Jim

Jim1999
03-23-2006, 01:34 PM
Oops! Sorry, I posted in error on a Baptist only section. My apologies.....

Cheers,

Jim

mcdirector
03-23-2006, 02:01 PM
Liberty has a self-study Bible Institute.

FBCPastorsWife
03-23-2006, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by Jim1999:
Oops! Sorry, I posted in error on a Baptist only section. My apologies.....

Cheers,

Jim Shame on you Jim!!! graemlins/laugh.gif

PreachTREE
03-24-2006, 03:37 AM
Does anyone know of any BIs other than moody in the chicagoland area?

Rhetorician
03-24-2006, 01:31 PM
Peach Tree,

I think Liberty still has an extensive and reasonably inexpensive Home Bible Study program. It looks really good.

sdg!

rd

Plain Old Bill
03-24-2006, 04:19 PM
LHBI is very good at the institute level,which is exactly what Liberty Home Bible Institute is.They also offer about 6 elective courses in addition to the regular program.

Scott J
03-24-2006, 06:59 PM
Education doesn't have to be formal unless someone else requires it for some reason... but I would never sit under an "uneducated" pastor.

With the books and resources available (books, software, and internet), a person can become very well educated without going through a formal program or having someone else's endorsement.

Charles Spurgeon was self-taught and one of the greatest preacher-theologians ever.

Brother Bob
03-24-2006, 11:28 PM
Amen, Scott J:

Apostle Paul was another.

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PreachTREE
03-25-2006, 05:26 AM
thanks for the responses!

Martin
03-25-2006, 03:14 PM
Like others I would highly suggest Liberty Home Bible Institute (http://www.lhbi.org/). There is also the Institute of Biblical Studies (http://www.instituteofbiblicalstudies.com/). The IoBS is also connected with Liberty University and is really a general introduction to the New and Old Testaments with the video teacher Dr Ed Hindson. I don't know of any better programs apart from "offical" degree programs.

In Christ,
Martin.

Brother Bob
03-25-2006, 05:45 PM
Wonder what Apostle Paul would of told you if you ask him that question? :confused:

Rhetorician
03-26-2006, 03:35 PM
Brother Bob,

Am I to infer from the above comment that you do not think called ministers should have formal education? What am I to think?

sdg!

rd

EdSutton
03-27-2006, 02:23 AM
Originally posted by PreachTREE:
Does anyone know of any BIs other than moody in the chicagoland area? Eh- Sorry about this, PT. Missed this post the first time through.

Dayspring Bible College in Lake Zurich, IL. is a ministry of Quentin Road Bible Baptist Church. And Dr. James A. Scudder, the founding and senior pastor of QRBBC and President of Dayspring was a college classmate of mine both at the Univ. of KY, and at the Bible College we both graduated from, as well, and is one of my oldest and closest friends for over 35 years. I know some of the other faculty and staff, as well, including Dean Floyd. Type in Quentin Road BBC on a search, or if you are in the NW Chicago area, it's located at N. Quentin Rd. and Old McHenry Rd. there. Look 'em up, and say "Hi!"
In His grace,
Ed

North Carolina Tentmaker
03-27-2006, 11:15 AM
But Paul was not self taught.

First he had his formal education under Gamaliel as a Pharisee. He probably knew a lot more about the Old Testament Scriptures (all the church had at that time) than our modern day professors. He was so well educated in fact that Festus accused him of having so much ‘book learning’ that he had lost his mind (Acts 26:24 Festus said with a loud voice, Paul, thou art beside thyself; much learning doth make thee mad.) Second, he had his exile into Arabia where he was taught by the Holy Spirit for 3 years. (Gal 1:18). And third, he was also a big supporter of education in the church. He told Timothy to study (II Tim 2:15).

EdSutton
03-27-2006, 05:55 PM
Originally posted by North Carolina Tentmaker:
But Paul was not self taught.

First he had his formal education under Gamaliel as a Pharisee. He probably knew a lot more about the Old Testament Scriptures (all the church had at that time) than our modern day professors. He was so well educated in fact that Festus accused him of having so much ‘book learning’ that he had lost his mind (Acts 26:24 Festus said with a loud voice, Paul, thou art beside thyself; much learning doth make thee mad.) Second, he had his exile into Arabia where he was taught by the Holy Spirit for 3 years. (Gal 1:18). And third, he was also a big supporter of education in the church. He told Timothy to study (II Tim 2:15). I agree, fully, here.

Not specifically, about Paul, but doesn't the Bible say Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and man? That 'wisdom' bit sounds like 'learning' to me.
Ed