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Another gov't expansion proposal - cloaked in volunteerism

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Revmitchell, Mar 26, 2009.

  1. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell Well-Known Member
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    Critics of President Obama's new civil service bill warn that it denies funding to certain faith-based groups while increasing funding for liberal advocacy groups.

    Last week, the House passed the "Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act" -- the GIVE Act -- which would expand the national service program, the AmeriCorps, from 75,000 to 250,000 participants. That includes not just young adults, but ages 17 to 100. (The Senate version of the bill is known as the Serve America Act.)

    The legislation, which would cost an estimated $6 billion over five years, would also create additional "corps" to expand the reach of volunteerism into new sectors, including a "Clean Energy Corps."

    Larry Hart, director of government relations for The American Conservative Union, warns the increased funding for AmeriCorps also will be used to aid liberal "community" organizations and causes.

    More Here
     
  2. BigBossman

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    It seems like that all he knows how to do is spend our money. So far everything I have heard tells me he is intentionally driving our nation through the ground.
     
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    What else would one expect a socialist to do?

    I hope the Obamaites feel that they are getting their money's worth with this "Golden Goose Slayer".

    The rest of us can say "I told you so!"; for whatever good that will do in a busted economy and a newly formed "Banana Republic"!:tear:
     
  4. OldRegular

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    Is it Obamaites or O'bamamites?:smilewinkgrin:
     
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    Don't really know, but don't make no never-mind to me. (Might have to go w/option 2 - if pushed!!:thumbs:)

    Either way it's an here-to-fore unknown entity- which now is becoming better well known!

    The pity is that the signs were there, but the majority chose to ignore same, so now we have a POTUS that has the US for a play-house!
     
  6. Magnetic Poles

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    Actually, Obama is continuing Bush's misguided Faith Based Initiatives. Government money should not be given to religious organizations. Major First Amendment violation.
     
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    Government money shouldn't be given to "advocacy groups" of any kind.

    But...

    If it goes to one of them, it should go to all of them.
     
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    It should be the Termites... think about it.. Termites destroy things from the inside out... they destroy without the homeowner knowing they are there.. until it's too late.

    Just like Obama and his Socialists... they are destroying our homeland.. and most people just keep ignoring them..

    America will be destroyed from within.. by these pesty termites that keep eating away at our resources...

    Obama and the Termites... fits our government right now.
     
  9. Revmitchell

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    yes Pelosi and company are termites.
     
  10. LeBuick

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    I think that says it all... These so called facts come from the party of master fact twisters and out right lies...
     
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    LeBuick...I'm willing to wage that there is not a thread, subject, issue, or post that you would be willing to criticize Obama on. Am I right?

    At one time, you were willing to look at both sides of an issue. To be blunt, you aren't willing to anymore. What happened? Why the knee-jerk defense of anything Obama does? Why aren't you willing to look at both sides of an issue anymore? Was the previous version of LeBuick a ruse? Or did you decide that Obama can't do anything wrong...and therefore, anyone who oppose his policies can never be right?

    I'm intrigued by your "transformation."
     
  12. Revmitchell

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    I do not remember which ones but Lebuick has admitted to disagreeing with Obama a time or two recently when addressing my posts. All though the disagreement was in small ways it was there.
     
  13. LeBuick

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    Perhaps you missed this post http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=1390735&postcount=4

    What makes me suspicions of this allegation is where is says "denies funding to certain faith-based groups". That is too many key words which will excite the evangelicals, Catholics and perhaps the entire religious community. It is so convenient of a accusation that it just smells fishy so I would really like to see the actual wording written by Obama's writers in his actual legislation.

    Otherwise I have seen the right twist so many truths of late that it's just hard to believe anything they say. When you see treads and can google and see all over the Internet things like "Obama is charging wounded soldiers for treatment" which really shakes out as Obama is charging the soldiers insurance companies for treatment if and when they have insurance, many of us in the middle have started not believing anything we hear from the right.

    Here is the saddest part, the truth in that story is objectionable enough, there was no need to twist it. But it's almost like the right is obsessed with distorting the truth which really strikes me odd since that group contains the majority of the Religious portion of our society... That is truly a head scratcher...
     
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    Sadly you are correct. He was an unknown but what little was known about him was sufficient to warn people what to expect. When he said change with a difference he meant it and people are now finding out exactly what that difference is: Socialism, Fascism, whatever it is called it means this country is done for unless there enough patriots in Congress to stop it.
     
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    Very insightful. I had not thought about that analogy before. If I am not mistaken some statesman in the past said that the only way America would be destroyed was from within.
     
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    Maybe more will go to [GASP] liberal faith-based groups.

    Actually no federal money should go to any faith based group. There should be complete separation of the state and church. Remember with federal money comes federal control. I do not want the government controlling the church!
     
  17. LeBuick

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    Weren't you endorsing Palin who was even more unknown, couldn't name a supreme court decision or a periodical? And you thought she'd be better?
     
  18. Revmitchell

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    Incorrect. She has a much longer record than odrama. I still did not nor would I vote for her. And I doubt you could prove the rest of your statement.
     
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    I believe she was governor of the largest state in the union with a 70-80% approval. As for the other nonsense you post, it is just that. I didn't think she would be better I knew she would be better.

    She was a victim of the vicious pro-slaughter-of-the-unborn-media in the country, aided and abetted by people like you. If she had been a pro-slaughter-of-the-unborn-leftist the media would have her walking on water all the way from Alaska. I am sure that leftists in their lucid? moments recognize that.
     
  20. LeBuick

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    Longer record perhaps but unknown just the same.
     
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