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Shame on Obama, as He Grovels Before the World!!!

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by righteousdude2, Apr 4, 2009.

  1. righteousdude2

    righteousdude2 Well-Known Member
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    A little arrogance is the "swagger" that a nation of prominence needs. American should be proud to have "pep n their step." The truth is, maybe we, as Americans are a little arrogant at times, but, we're also very giving, caring, kind, loving, and always the first to respond to any nations' natural or man made disaster.

    Without America, this world would be chaotic and clumsy, something like a horse without a head.

    Maybe we have been dismissive, and a little derisive. But, it's well within the boundaries of celebrating our blood bought victories over the tyrants of World Wars I and II. America paid the price with the life's of the men and women in uniform, men and women who earned the right to be "just a little 'cocky'". After all, we are the only nation to place a man on the moon; aggressively attack the AIDS virus in Africa; and send peacekeepers and manpower, and supplies to every place where nature flexed it's destructive power. We lead the world in providing money, grants, loans, medical supplies, food, equipment, training, etc. to whomever needs our help.

    Obama, when he appeared on Jay Leno, commented how proud and exciting it was for him to fly on Air Force 1. How proud it felt within himself to wear that Air Force 1 blazer with the Presidential patch. It seems to me that Barrack holds in his hands a crate load of personal pride, cockiness, and arrogance for the office he holds. So why is he "badmouthing" America to our European brothers and sisters? Has he not yet looked in the mirror in his WH bedroom?

    This nation does not need to be beaten down anymore than we've been beaten down with our present day economic crisis. The economy has torn a huge hole in our national fabric; rising unemployment has torn away at Americas personal pride of being the number one nation in production of goods. We don't need a narcissistic President apologizing on our behalf for holding unto the things that helped to make Americans develop a deep sense of patriotism, and that is national pride [dismissive] and personal/national bias [derisiveness].

    I am proud to be an American, and I will not stand by and allow this "wimpy-wimpy" President apologize to the world for my national pride and patriotism.

    Arrogant, yes; but held in check but national humility! Dismissive, yes, but ready to give the shirt off my back to help my neighbors around the world! Derisive, yes; but, not so derisive that I forget that in the end, we're all created in the image of our Father in Heaven!

    Maybe, just maybe....Americans are growing less excited with Obama, and more embarrassed....I can only hope. STILL, he does not speak for me, and I'm sure he does not speak for the majority of Americans when he "Grovels" before the world and apologizes for our past actions and attitudes. We earned the right to be a tad-bit arrogant, underscored by national pride.

    I think the world thinks less of America today, now that Obama has shown himself to be timid and pathetic and totally lacking a spine, as he "groveled" at the NATO meeting yesterday!!!

    Shalom,

    Pastor Paul :type:
    Remove the Haze Ministries
     
  2. JustChristian

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    In what way is Obama "groveling" before the world. I agree that he doesn't have as his objective world supremacy as Bush did but why do we need that/ I don't think he';s giving away anything but rather coorerating with other nations. That's something we haven't seen in 8 years so it might seem strange to you.
     
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    Have you not seen the giveaways to foreign banks via AIG? The out rage of the bonuses completely hid that didn't it?!
     
  4. poncho

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    The man has been groveling at the global elite's feet for thirty years now why should today be any different? He's a good groveler too apparently else wise they'd have never let him become their latest puppet president.
     
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    An excellent OP Pastor Paul whether JC agrees or not.
     
  6. Magnetic Poles

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    More ridiculous baloney. Today at the press conference in France, the President spoke of his pride in America and what she has accomplished and her leadership position in the world.
     
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    MP you are as blind as JC. In fact our government is now composed of the blind leading the blind.
     
  8. Magnetic Poles

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    No sir, it is you who refuse to accept that your hatred of the president colors your views. I saw the press conference with my own eyes and heard with my own ears. You should open yours and turn off the filters of your own prejudices. Criticize Mr. Obama for real issues, not these ridiculous allegations.
     
  9. poncho

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    I just don't like liars. He's been caught in enough now that even the loyalest of the Obamanites should be stumbling over the rotten fruit that falls from this tree. Face it the democrats have bought a trojan horse named Obama just the same as the republicans bought one named Bush. Besides all that Obama has already shown he's completely at ease in saying one thing then doing another.

    Several times.
     
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  10. OldRegular

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    Not knowing O'bama rex personally I cannot hate him. I do hate everything that he stands for: Converting the country I love into a Socialist or Fascist state, possibly with a Civilian Security Force [Gestapo?].

    I don't know you MP so I can't say I dislike you. However, I see little to nothing in your posts that I like or agree with, just like JC.
     
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    >Converting the country I love into a Socialist or Fascist state, possibly with a Civilian Security Force [Gestapo?]

    If you don't think this happened long before you were born, then how will you know when it happens? What will be the changes in your new daily life?
     
  12. OldRegular

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    The tool for Socialism/fascism was the passage of the 16th amendment giving the Federal government power to tax income. Socialism/fascism took one giant forward under FDR and his New Deal, a second under Johnson's Great Society.
     
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    What changed from the last administration and who do you feel would be different? McCain/Palin???
     
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    "Both in the Brushaber Case and in the Stanton Case the Supreme Court held that the 16th Amendment created no new class of taxes, and that income taxes (on unearned income, gain or profit from business activity) were inherently indirect taxes. Whereas income taxes on wages and salaries are direct and required by the Constitution to be apportioned. Thus, the 16th Amendment did not give Congress any new power, nor did it create a new class of taxation, nor did it grant to Congress power to impose any type of direct tax without apportionment."

    SOURCE
     
  15. just-want-peace

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    As I have stated many times, the Rs & the Ds are taking us down the same exact path!!

    Basically, the only differences are:
    1 The Rs are considerably more genteel, gracious and civilized in the process, whereas the Ds are doing it in "bar-room brawl" fashion, and
    2 The Rs are doing it at a gentle pace whereas the Ds are driving us over the precipice "wide-open throttle"!

    Same end result, just different methods!
     
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    It will doubtless suprise some here to say I have some sympathy with the OP although I don't agree with all of it. Suffice it to say that it's gone down well here that Obama's apologised. He also rightly called us Europeans on our anti-Americanism over the last eight years and it's time we grew up and apologised for that too. Then both sides of the Atlantic can move on with our relationship on a better footing.
     
  17. JustChristian

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    The AIG bailout was done primarily during the Bush administration, $150B out of the total of $30B. Perhaps the statement should have been Bush groveling before the world.
     
  18. JustChristian

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    The Sixteenth Amendment (Amendment XVI) to the United States Constitution was ratified on February 3, 1913. So, are you arguing that the United States has been a socialist country since before WW1?
     
  19. LeBuick

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    You said it well JWP... You said it well...
     
  20. targus

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    Come on, no one's reading comprehension could possibly be that poor !!

    You must be writing all these ridiculous posts on purpose.

    "The tool for Socialism/fascism was the passage of the 16th amendment giving the Federal government power to tax income."
     
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