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So much for Obama not being a "messiah"

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Revmitchell, Apr 26, 2009.

  1. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell Well-Known Member
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    On his 100th day in office, President Obama will be "crowned" in messianic imagery at New York City's Union Square.

    Artist Michael D'Antuono's painting "The Truth" – featuring Obama with his arms outstretched and wearing a crown of thorns upon his head – will be unveiled on April 29 at the Square's South Plaza.

    According to a statement released about the portrait, "The 30" x 54" acrylic painting on canvas depicts President Obama appearing much like Jesus Christ on the Cross: atop his head, a crown of thorns; behind him, the dark veil being lifted (or lowered) on the Presidential Seal. But is he revealing or concealing, and is he being crucified or glorified?"

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    *Note- a copy of the portrait can be found on the link
     
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    Obama is not my Messiah. If you want to keep saying that he's the messiah so be it. This is the expression of ONE artist not all Democrats. It's ridiculous to continue to push this. It's simply a smear.
     
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    What makes you think the painter of this portrait is a supporter of Obama? This appears to be someone trying to prove Obama's supporters worship him like a messiah.
     
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    it appears to be someone calling obama his messiah. people have said on this board he doesn't do anything wrong, makes no bad decisions, everything he does is in fact righteous and better then anyone else, and we were told here in the last couple of weeks he was being cruicifed. sounds like a messiah to me.
     
  6. LeBuick

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    I disagree, it is clearly someone characterizing Obama as someone's messiah.

    Can you link to one post where anyone said Obama does no wrong, he does anything righteous or any of the other things you allege? He might sound like a messiah to you but what you heard was only said in your mind. No one here that I know of said those things...
     
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    Taking this post personally? Why?
     
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    If your response is to JC? He calls it a smear (clarifying for you since your post doesn't follow any conclusion from the OP.)

    I suppose both of you are consistant in turning the other cheek.... in favor of your support for your king.

    So here it comes:
    Neither of you have to agree with my opinion...... But my personal opinion is that the way each of you seem to be so critical of anyone presenting valid and documented uncertainties regarding the O, and the way you defend him on every term, sometimes without cause..... smacks to me of some adoration which goes beyond that of mere respect for him as a person or the role of his office.
     
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    Numerous are the posts from you which shows not only your support for the O but your defense and defensiveness concerning everything related to him. You as an objective observer.... are not displaying it in your postings. Where is your objectivity and critque, or is he really above reproach in your eyes? No wonder it appears to some of us who think and opin, regardless of political Parties, our own positive and negative critiques of present and past leaders' policies, that some who support this president, have allegiance and loyalties which exceed those deserved by any man.

    The 'messiah' headlines in the news? I suppose you blame all that on his opposition along with the positive press contained within the magazines and newspapers which displayed such? Bull!
     
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    I agree. I see a lot of satire in that painting.
     
  11. LeBuick

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    You are entitled to your option but that doesn't make it true.

    Do you believe in or encourage truth? Obama is not perfect just as no man except Christ is/was. We all have our faults. However, twisting facts or presenting facts in a skewed light for the purpose of making Obama wrong or guilty is bearing false witness which is just as bad as murder according to the bible. The bible declares if you think your brother dead you are guilty of murder.
     
  12. LeBuick

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    But where have I or anyone said any of these things? That is the question.

    I am just asking where any of this was said. Saying you took this impression from someone's post is not the same as saying someone used these actual words.

    As for objectiveness or objective observer, that is a two way street. I can likewise ask where is your objectivity and critique, or is he really beneath reproach in your eyes? There are equally those here who show the opposite objectiveness yet I don't see you calling them into question???

    I will say that I have not seen the word messiah used in a positive light in regards to Obama. It was introduced by his loyal opposition twisting the words of Farrakhan who said he is the "symbol" or "sign" of the coming of the messiah into saying Obama is the messiah. If you listen to the full clip which is no longer found on the net you will see that is not what Farrakhan said.

    So IOW they lied by twisting someones words then perpetuated the false claims as if they were truth. So the messiah headlines in the news? I have yet to see one of his supporters call him the messiah. Who does that leave?
     
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    disagree?
    you said the something I did.
    right here in this forum, read and you'll be sure to see. you might want to go back and read some of your own posts.
    telling us al how obama can do no wrong.
    it's not opposition calling him messiah, but supporters. whenever you apply the attributes of THE Messiah to a person, you've named them messiah.

    who was it recently, on here, who said, 'he hasn't done anything wrong,,, he's being crucified'

    then you aren't paying attention, we even saw a video on here of a person saying obama was their messiah.
    supporters who've called obama messiah
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9cRpS5mSq0
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0drwfnGlF_E
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RqCvBtVIHM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCqpyHojirI
    oabma is like Jesus?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osxB3_39DY4

    And to think I thought Jesus was THE ONE, but that may be just me.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kARoknJeO8Y

    http://obamamessiah.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2008-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00&updated-max=2009-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00&max-results=46
    I notice people say obama is the messiah, but obama has never said otherwise, he has accepted the title.
    why?
     
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    <personal attack deleted - LE>

    Not one of the clips you posted is any supporter of Obama calling him the messiah. I do like some of the jokes from the Alfred E. Smith Memorial Foundation Dinner , but again, we know that is satirical humor and no good and fair minded American would take any of those things serious. McCain his on messiah at the beginning however, after that skip to 11:00 and you will have a good laugh at Obama's expense.
     
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    The artist said "'The Truth,' like beauty, is in the eyes of the beholder,". This is the prevalent problem with America. Truth is Truth regardless if you 'see' it or not.
     
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    My king is Jesus Christ. If you want to call Obama your king that's your business. Just don't put yopur lies in my mouth.
     
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    Moderator Note: Please stick to the OP. Thank you. LE
     
  18. LeBuick

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    I didn't intend a personal attack, if I made one I apologize Donna.
     
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    Once again, Obama is not MY messiah. You are welcome to your own conclusions.
     
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    If you want to designate Obama as a king go ahead. My King is Jesus of Nazareth.
     
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