Conservatives Now Outnumber Liberals Almost Two to One in America,

Who cares? These figures change everyday. America needs to be more moderate and less Conservative and less Liberal. America needs to come back to the middle. That what Your President is doing, bringing it back to the middle after the Wild West experience of W, Donald and Dick. I don't see any of them on the speakers tours, I wonder why. At least your President is his own man. Didn't need daddy to buy his way into Yale.

 

RevMitchell, and I hope your not a Rev, because under the guise of calling your president a marxist, I smell a possible racist. You make it sound so. Give the man a chance, he just started in January, give the man a break, you should if you call yourself a Christian.

 

I think its you being absurd, Obama is a Democrat, Lenin was a marxist.

 

"But of course that is all that libbies have"

Shinninglight is a card carrying member of the Coservative Part of Canada and attends a right of centre church where we use the KJV.

Rev, I have many close relatives in Florida, Texas and Michigan and have travelled extensivily down there. I can smell a cottonmouth in the swamp while eating rattler burgers that my cousin in Fort Worth gave me.

 

Rev, let me clarify, your statement sounded racist.

 

Define Marxist and Marxism for us.

Have you ever read Marx?

Do you know Marx's first name?

 

No, your elected Representatives and Senators represent you. And, if you are an American, Obama is your president, like it or not.

Sometimes Rev, you sound as silly as those crazy "birthers!" Oh, wait a minute, you are a birther. Never mind.

 

==I think the key there is the phrase "consider themselves conservatives". If you sit down and question many of these people you will find them to be moderately conservative (at best). But then again my definition of "conservative" is so selective that most professing conservatives don't fit into it.

In my opinion a conservative is:

1. Pro-life all the time, period, no questions asked.
2. Pro-small, limited, federal government.
3. An isolationist. That is, a true conservative does not support the use of the United States military for any mission that does not directly involve United States national security. Thus, no nation building.
4. A person who wants the federal government to respect the rights of states to make their own laws on issues that do not fall under the federal government's constitutional powers.
5. A person who wants all government to stay out of the private lives of law abiding citizens.
6. Consistent. If something is wrong for a Democrat it is equally as wrong for a Republican.
7. Independent. Not dedicated to either political party.

I could go on but that is good summary.

Many of your professing conservatives fail on numbers 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, and 7.

Just my opinion.

 

==President Obama is not a middle of the road kind of man. He is a liberal. If he is seen as moderate, it is only because American society has become very liberal. In fact, that is why he was elected.

==Former President Bush does speaking engagements. I don't know about Dick Cheney or Donald Rumsfeld. Nor do I care. Being on a speaking tour does not mean a person is good, qualified, or was a good leader.

==President Obama is no more "his own man" than any other recent President. He was his own man on the campaign trial but, as many liberals will admit, he has pulled back since walking into the White House. In fact it was John Stewart who pointed out that one of President Obama's anti-terrorism speeches was almost word for word identical to one of President Bush's speeches. That does not sound like someone who is his own man. To me it sounds like someone who has advisors scripting his every move (just like Bush).

==I know that in your own way you think that is an insult to President Bush, but it is not. Many Americans get jobs, or positions, because of family connections. After all the saying that "it is not what you know, but who you know" is very true. In that respect Bush was/is no different than many Americans (including myself). Your statement is an insult to Yale University, not President Bush.

 

The moderates must all be liberal leaning because 72% of American's are ok with the public option.

I think they have a different definition of conservative.

 

Now that was hilarious... Good one Rev. :laugh::thumbs:

 

Before this goes too far, Rev is not a racist. I have been reading from his mind for years and find no basis for this accusation. He is a fine Christian man who I happen to disagree with politically but I have no doubt he is a saved leader of God's people and a fine family loving American.

He is just wrong on his political views.

 

I suspect that the count is warped by the fact that conservatives are usually proud of it and don't mind claiming it.

OTOH Liberals are ashamed of being what they are and won't publicly admit it. :smilewinkgrin: