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Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by LeBuick, Aug 16, 2009.

  1. LeBuick

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    The Wife has been with Seattle Group Health for most of 40 years and has been very happy with their service and cost.
     
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    Conrad keeps mentioning that co-op. Two things concerns me;

    How will this serve to cover the uninsured without the tax payers paying their premiums?

    How will this help to control cost and bring the insurers in line since the co-ops will still have to buy insurance from the insurance companies.
     
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    Conrad's proposal says the Gov would only put up the seed money to get the co-ops started but they will operate independently and receive no further backing from the government. So far my reading says unless the co-op is huge it will have no bargaining power. Even then they must go to the insurance companies on their knees and hope for a good deal.

    The look like a waste of tax dollars to me.
     
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    Yes, but common sense and Chuck Schumer say Conrad is either lying or not in the know.

    http://nicedeb.wordpress.com/2009/08/16/out-public-option-in-health-care-co-ops/

    The question I have is, how would these co-ops differ from the public option? Back in June,when the co-op idea was first circulated, Michael Tanner, a senior fellow specializing in health care at the Cato Institute suspected that Senate Democrats were not interested in Republican support:

    “If it’s a co-op model, I suspect if it was sufficiently independent of government to make Republicans happy, the Democrats wouldn’t be happy,” Tanner told CNSNews.com. “The left wing of the Democratic Party would walk away, which is very insistent upon single payer, or certainly insisting on a robust public option and is not going to accept something watered down this much.”

    The only rationale Democrats might have, then, for moderating their plans might be to “go far enough to make the [moderate Democrats] comfortable,” Tanner said. “[T]hat, I think, is their real target.”

    “There’s no reason to do a co-op or any other option if it’s not somehow managed by government,” he said. “We have 1,300 insurance companies, and now we’d just have 1,350.”

    Schumer seemed to concur, saying the plan would have to “achieve the same goals as a conventional public plan.”
     
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    Or both, I'm not digging that Conrad right about now. He is single handedly stopping the show and loosing credibility of an entire party. Maybe Reid should take his committee seat from him.
     
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