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White House Christmas Decor

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Dragoon68, Dec 23, 2009.

  1. Dragoon68

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    These people have no sense of propriety at all.

    Disgusting.
     
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    quite the contrary.. This shows at the core, their propriety.
     
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    Can't say as I'm surprised. Communist China is the model on which the NWO is being built. Why wouldn't our own new worlder in chief adore Mao?
     
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    I'm really trying hard to figure out why I should care about this story. It sounds to me like someone has a bit too much time on their hands. Who goes around inspecting ornaments on a Christmas tree anyway? I personally could careless what picture(s) are on the ornaments that grace that tree. In fact, in the top 10,000 things I just might need to be concerned about this does not even make the list.

    There is an old saying and it is, "pick your battles carefully". I am far more concerned about Obama's big government, big brother policies than I am concerned about a Christmas tree.

    Then again, maybe I should spend my time trying to find every little thing to complain about. Certainly seems as if many people in the media think it is a worthwhile activity. I know I really want to model my life after a bunch of people who step on another person just to get a photograph of Britney Spears or Michael Jackson.

    Actually that would probably be a bad idea. After all, I don't care about Britney Spears, Michael Jackson, Bernie Madoff, what Dick Cheney said on the floor of the Senate, who Joe Lieberman is making angry today, what nut called Obama a liar, when Nancy Pelosi had her last face lift, or what ornaments hang on a tree in the White House for a few days. I like to care about big issues. You know, things like the two wars our soldiers are fighting, the soaring national debt, the unconstitutional health care legislation being pushed through congress, unemployment, cancer, abortion, and more important than any of that doing my part to preach the Gospel to all the nations.

    So I just don't have time to care about this non-issue. :wavey:
     
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    Seems like I have already given this issue too much thought.
     
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    Sometimes the small things reveal a whole lot about a person's character. What the White House puts on their Christmas tree becomes significant when it speaks to the character of those behind it. When it is clear they are statements beyond just decorative choices it attracts attention. When it carries other messages then it signals what they are thinking about the much larger issues. But, of course, we didn't really have to wait to read the tree to know where Obama stands on a lot of things. His record, his speeches, his choice of associations, his church membership, his appointments, his written campaign platform, etc. already told us what we needed to know about his character and what should have been very important to all voters. Those who couldn't discern those things probably won't see any problem with the Christmas tree decorations. They will just say: "Who cares?"
     
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    Good post, you know it sounds like these people who do bring to light these seemingly small insignificant news stories do have too much time on their hands, but I would like to look at it from another view. I think Obama is in-you-face on all this stuff. He doesn't seem to mind to hang out with communists, he hides Christian art and fully displays his adoration of foreign leaders. It seems as if he's really bold about all this. Plus he's put in motion the biggest socialization of America ever and touted it as very good. His worldview is at odds with Christianity and he don't care. I feel he even wants it known without acknowledging it with his lips. 50 years ago he would have been run out of the Whitehouse for the things he's done, but not now. This postmodern society is ready for the likes of Barak Obama. We just need to remember we are not of this world and worldview.
     
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    I kept looking for an old Swastika armband or two being worn-----maybe next yr---or it could be as early as tomorrow morning---you can't tell anymore by who graces the floors of Capitol Hill!!

    I just wonder what our forefathers would think if they could see the faces plastered on those ornaments

    I tell ya---I participated in yesterdays "Christmas Cease Fire" against our flaming politicians but yesterday was Christmas and today is another day!!

    God have mercy on the United States of America!!
     
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    ==Do you, or I, know whose decision it was to put the ornaments on the tree? Do you really believe that it was President Obama's? Do you really believe he sits around thinking about the ornaments on one of the many trees in the White House? I know Presidents pretend that they have a hand in these things, but I'm never sure. Also, do we know why the ornaments were put on the tree? What was the purpose? Certainly there was some stated reason. What was that reason?

    ==What other messages do the ornaments have? Did President Obama, or the first lady, or one of their representatives, state the reason(s) behind the ornaments? If not, how do you know the message?

    ==We know that Obama is a left-wing person who has surrounded himself with left-wing nuts. Nothing new there. I'm just not sure what this has to do with the ornaments.

    ==Nice, but let's get back to the main point here. What is the message behind the ornaments? How do you know the message? Why should the alleged message be a concern of mine? I know President Obama is corrupt and sinful, as was President Bush and Clinton (etc). Most of the politicians in D.C. are corrupt. That is not news. The ornaments are not a concern of mine. I don't care who, or what, they have plastered on the ornaments. So unless you can show me why it matters I'm going to continue to say that I have far bigger fish to fry than Christmas tree ornaments.
     
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    I'm responsible from what goes on the Christmas tree in my home. The President is responsible for his and since he's only there because we put him there we have an interest as well. Instead of making excuses let's start trying to discern the decline that is taking place to our nation at an every escalating rate.
     
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    Would it start to bother you if there were a few ornamental Swastikis hanging on that tree?? Hanging an ornament with some communist pig on a Christmas tree makes about as much sense as a full blooded Christian hanging an ornament with King Herod's picture on our tree

    Just was is it that will make us start getting "concerned" about the POTUS other than an ornamental picture of a communist pig on the White House tree?????? If an icon of Adolf Hitler was there instead---would it raise eyebrows?? Whats the difference between Hitler and that communist swine??
     
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    ==Would I like it? No. Would it bother me? No. Do I like the ornaments being discussed? No. Do I care about them being on a tree in the White House? No. Do I like Obama's big government policies? No. Do I care about those policies? Yes. You see, it is policies I care about. No decorations.

    ==Since I honestly doubt that President Obama is a Christian, I don't see how you can connect the two things. I am never surprised when wicked people do wicked things or honor other wicked people (Rom 1:32).

    ==I was concerned about the state of the American presidency long before Obama was a household name. Things have been going down hill for some time, this slide did not start with Obama. As for Obama himself, I have never liked or trusted him. I think he very well maybe one of the worst presidents of the modern age. However that has nothing to do with ornaments on a tree. That has to do with his big government policies that are continuing our slide into national bankruptcy.

    ==I'm not sure there is any material difference at all. My point is simply that I have far more important things to concern myself with than an ornament on a Christmas tree.
     
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    ==I did not vote for Obama. Sadly I compromised and voted for McCain/Palin. I should have stuck to my principles and voted for Paul, Barr, or Baldwin. In 2012, I will not compromise. Back to my point. I did not help make Obama our President.



    ==I'm not making excuses for Obama, I am just pointing out that considering all that is going on these ornaments are not that important.
     
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    Ask the people of Germany---pre-1930---the same thing and they dittoed your response---they had far more important things to concern themselves with than a few men and older teenagers wearing brown shirts!!! It just kept on until there was such a flood of brown shirts that by and by--the bodies inside those brown shirts could not be stopped!!!
     
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    ==So you are saying that President Obama will be the next Hitler? Come on.
     
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    Okay back to reality.

    It doesn't matter which globalist is in office or what ornament hangs on their tree. Who ever it might be is going to keep leading us down the trail to global governance until we, as in "we the people" wake up, stop arguing amongst ourselves about which faction of the two headed globalist party snake that has slithered into our government is best suited to serve our interests.

    By now it should be fairly apparent to everyone concerned that our interests are not being served. Rather it is we who are being served up.
     
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    Exactly. :thumbs:
     
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    I concur. There are several solid and valid reasons to be critical of President Obama. This is not one of them.
     
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    There are many reasons - large and small - and this Is another one of them that tells a lot about his character and that means everything. If it were his choice of wallpaper for his bedroom I wouldn't be concerned but since it is symbols honoring Communism and perverted conduct that he allows on his Christmas tree I am concerned and it is a valid reason to be critical of him. That concern takes away not even one little bit for the direction in which he is misleading our nation. That will have disastorous and long lasting impacts on all o us. The Christmas tree ornaments just tells us who are his idols and it fits with the direction in which he is leading. Those who continue to make excuses for this man are abetting his demise of our nation.
     
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