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Obesity: Who, What, When, Where, How and Why?

Discussion in 'Health and Wellness' started by Benjamin, Mar 3, 2010.

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  1. Benjamin

    Benjamin Well-Known Member
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    I was reading an article and came across this statement:
    With that in mind, I’m interested in people’s opinions on the “deeper questions” of reasonings for the formation of these unhealthy habits and any resolutions pertaining to them.

    Who:

    What:

    When:

    Where:

    How:

    Why:
     
    #1 Benjamin, Mar 3, 2010
  2. Spinach

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    There are a lot of "why"s...

    Boredom
    Depression
    Gluttony
    Laziness
    Inactivity

    As for who? Nearly anyone. I can't say everyone because my husband will probably never be obese, no matter how much he eats. He's just wired that way. However, I wouldn't have to work hard at being obese (again). I'm kind of wired that way. I could sniff a Dunkin Donuts and gain 20lbs. LOL!
     
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    the whys go much deeper then boredom, gluttony, laziness, or inactivity, these are only the symptoms, until people understand this they aren't going to help anyone.
     
    #3 donnA, Mar 4, 2010
  4. Spinach

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    Here's the thing, DonnA, you are more than welcome to your opinion. Everybody's got 'em. However, you are not the only one on this board who has experienced obesity and I would thank you to not assume that I am unable to help anyone.

    And, yes, sometimes those things are just symptoms (I noticed you intentionally left off the depression part, which sums up most, imo). However, sometimes they are the root. Sometimes people just like food. Sometimes people just like sitting in front of the computer. Sometimes people want to be bigger.

    Each obese person has his/her own reasons for being such. I mentioned a few.
     
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    never said this to you or about you, you ahve assumed something not true.

    "Sometimes", does not include all peoples. But if people don not fit your design of them they obviously do nto exist.
    Your statments show that you obvioulsy do not care as much as you'd have people beleive you do.
     
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    more frequently then not depression is caused by the obesity, not the other way around, which happens just not with as much frequency. Once people lose wieght they usually do not need depression meds, they no longer have depression. This is actually a fact.
    One woman comes to mind, she was on last season's biggest loser, her husband and two children, one of which was only a few weeks old were all killed in a car crash. She suffered heavy depression and gain more then 100 pounds. Once she was helped through her loss she easily lost weight.
    being yelled at and accused and told you are less of a person becasue of your weight never helepd anyone, assuming you knwo why a person is over weight without their own input of how they feel about it, never helped anyone. Assumptions all they really do is tell the person they aren't important enought o ahve a real opinion about themselves and their weight 'so here I'll give you my own opinion about you'.
     
    #7 donnA, Mar 5, 2010
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    I'm not sure if this is what you are looking for, Benjamin, but I wrote an article recently for another site about the spiritual "why's" of all bad habits. I included overeating, but was targeting Christians who are in bondage to porn, lying, over/undereating, excessive procrastination, inappropriate sex, gossiping, dependencies of all kinds, and MANY, many such as these.

    Here is an excerpt about what I said about the spiritual cause of some of these things.

     
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  9. Benjamin

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    Yes, I'm thinking about the roots.




    I believe cheap joys, easy accessibility, instant gratification all play a major role; it gives a natural pleasurable feeling to eat foods, especially sweets and fats, this is part of our human nature. I believe some have this driver more than others.

    On the other hand, while focusing on obesity as a way of life, it is usually not that pleasureable to experience and this is known to those who are in that condition. Athough again, I wonder if some have never known how it feels to to be in a strong, healthy, lean and active body so I wonder if they realize how much pleasure "that" type of feeling can bring is realized in the comparison.

    To achieve good physical fitness is not instant, as a matter of fact to reach this type gratification is very hard work, for some it undoubtedly takes more work than others just because of genetics.

    If the question is is it a "purely a conscious or higher cognitive decision" why don't people care enough not to get into an obese condition? Do they not realize the "greater gratification" of feeling fit? Where they in such a big hole that it seems impossible to get out of by the time they reason that a physically fit life could be much better? Do they just don't care? I think most do care and realize the quality of life could be much better. The problem seems to often lie with motivation, and this often includes denial of the problem, much like an alcoholic.

    Sometimes I think a person, actually all of us in general at some point, don't seem to love ourselves enough to do the things we know would give us a better quality life. Maybe we feel we don't deserve it, aren't willing to work for it, are too depressed to try, don't have a strong enough image of what it would actually be like, or don't feel feel like we can. But in reality it is not unreachable.

     
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  10. Spinach

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    You have this funny way of throwing in insults, eh.

    Because you obviously know nothing about me and my compassion, I will ignore further insults.
     
    #10 Spinach, Mar 6, 2010
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