Repentance for Salvation?

I'm not sure how many people actually have this view, I think it is an incorrect representation of what most people actually believe.
No one has said you can go on living as you please, when you meet Jesus theres no way you can not repent, once you see just who you are and how lacking you are, it is the desire of a christian to repent. If a christian does not have this desire theres something wrong.

 

Yes, Paul addressed quite a few of them in his letters, so apparently he believed that as well

Your poll is strangely worded, btw, and not as clear cut as you might believe.

 

This was a tough question. Repentence is absolutely required for salvation. But I think many misunderstand what repentence is. Repentence is to turn from unbelief, to turn from trusting in one's own righteousness and trust Christ alone for salvation.

Mark 1:15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

So, repent means to turn from unbelief.

Are we supposed to turn from sin once we accept Christ? Absolutely, it is said many times in the scriptures.

2 Tim 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

Now, the way I see it, if you truly and sincerely believe Jesus is the Son of God, you are going to listen to him. And it is clear that He wants us to live as good and holy life as possible.

I believe in Preservation of the Saints. We do not save ourselves, Jesus does, and we cannot keep ourselves, Jesus does. When a Christian sins he does not lose his salvation, but he does lose rewards.

1 Cor 3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

 

Nobody will...you just have a flawed definition of what repentance is. I believe repentance is necessary, but I do not believe YOUR definition of repentance to be the correct one.

 

He also stated not to suppress the Spirit, meaning one can do just that. When one does that, sin reigns in the life of a true believer.

 

Your poll is worded so it sounds "spiritual", but not knowing your definition of it, I'm sure the majority who voted option #1 did so under this false premise.

My vote should consist of what repentance truly is, not "no repentance required".

 

Winman,
I think defining repentance as a turning from unbelief is solid. I remember Dr. Harold Willmington, Dean of Liberty Home Bible Institute, saying that repentance is a turning from one sin (singular), not sins (plural). That one sin that needs to be turned from in unbelief. I found him to be very kind and helpful in responding to e-mails as I progressed through seminary.

 

Your poll uses language that is fairly generic, that is why so many people can readily agree with it. While it may be true that the Lordship Position could not be stated any more simply, it can certainly be stated in greater detail. The statement of greater detail is the one that will produce disagreement.

 

I posted this on the Comfort thread, but it applies here as well.


IMHO it only seems natural that the moment a person places their trust and faith in Christ as their saviour they would also recognize and hate their sin and desire completely to turn from them.

I don't understand how someone could be sincere and yet at the same time be thinking "I kind of like that one sin, I will keep doing just that one"? Or could they be sincere and believe that some of their sins are not really all that bad?

 

I agree and I think this basicly makes the same point I was making. The first option on your thread is a statement that a person might make but disagree with particular details that some who hold to LS might teach. So, for instance, I voted for the option but I do not use the term LS of myself because I see errors in the detailed descriptions that I hear of it from those who claim the label.

BTW, here's a question for you: In Acts, when the Lord dropped the sheet in front of Peter that was loaded with ceremonially unclean animals and the Lord said "Rise Peter, kill and eat", Peter responded "Not so, Lord". Since Peter was expressing an unwillingness to obey God's revealed will, would you say that Peter was not saved?

 

I vote for changing my mind (repentance) from thinking I can clean myself up now by not sinning,,,
to knowing I will never be anything but a death deserving sinner and the only way out of this mess is to get in Christ who through the Holy Spirit will wash my soul daily in the blood so my sins of the flesh will not stain my soul.