Virginia files suit against healthcare bill

hopefully many states will follow and defend their citizens from this take over and collapse of freedom in our country

 

After all the grandstanding, mostly by the republicans, this law will be decided by the Supreme Court, which is how it should be.

 

So RS, you don't think this bill is unconstitutional? It is constitutional to force people to buy health insurance?

 

Didn't have to be.

It's just a bad bill. Genuine reform could have been accomplished without running afoul of the Constitution. Democrats refused to try.

 

I guess the Supreme Court will decide as to this law's constitutionality.

BTW, we do a lot of things that are not specifically addressed in the Constitution. Seat belts are not mentioned, but we all wear them. Having automobile insurance is another, but we can't drive without it.

 

Are there any states where you do not have to wear a seat belt?

You are still mandated by government to have insurance if you drive. I have a motorcycle and I am required to have liability insurance. Seem like this would go against your beliefs of personal responsibility.

My point is that there are many things the governments, both local and federal, require today. We do not live in the 18 century and our laws have changed along with the times. To continually bemoan this fact is pointless and a waste of time. Jesus did not spend His time complaining about the unjust laws of Rome, in fact He said very little about it. Even the Apostles did not say much about government, other than to obey the governing authorities. Too much time is spent in complaining and griping about the things our government does. God has allowed us to have one of the best countries this world has ever known, and to hear Christians continually complain about it is wrong, in my opinion.

 

In a participatory government which depends upon citizen input..... not only is it a Christian's right to speak..... but to inform, correct and criticize as he feels led, but it is his duty. This does not diminish his responsibility to Christ and the gospel...... nor does that calling diminish his requirement to be salt and light in this world. Think about it!

 

And thankfully we have a Republican appointed majority Supreme Court, so everything should be okay, right? (general comment - not necessarily in reply to Robert's post)

 

From me??

I am shocked

 

I have health insurance, but no savings that I can pull money out of for deductibles, which I guess could be a regular situation for most wage earners.
Deductible is $1500.00 combining doctors' visits, lab work, prescription and all the other fancy stuff that needs dollars.
The company I work for pays half of the deductible, after which I pay the other half, and only then is it the insurance company's turn.
I cancelled my last lab work because I don't have the money to pay for it, and am cancelling my next doctors' visits until my wife and I can scrape up enough funds to afford it.
I pay my generic and brand prescriptions out of pocket because I order them on a weekly, 7 tablet request because then I can afford to pay for my prescriptions and still have enough money for the bills and some food on the table and the ever-rising cost of gas.

There used to be a time not too long ago when all I needed was my insurance card and no deductibles in all of the companies I've worked for, but now that time is gone and I don't know why.

Can someone explain why it is now standard for insurance company plans to have deductibles even if the company they cover employs 500 people.

I'm not an Obama fan, but I'm glad for the common man who cannot afford all these fancy capitalist schemes, IF it will work for them, and I'm glad for the temporary worries this bill gives the profit-oriented, profit-centered stockholders of these health insurance companies.

Call me dim-witted, I don't care.

 

It's not "grandstanding" to sue against an unconstitutional law.

How on earth do you think a case gets to the SC? Of course someone has to sue.

 

theres a difference between state and federal laws, the constution protects the states from intrussive federal laws being forced on them.

 

You live in Texas.

You are NOT required by the state to purchase liability insurance , nor any other type of insurance.

Instead, you are required to show proof of financial responsibility. Most people purchase insurance because they can't prove they have ready access to $20,000. But it's your choice , not the state's.

 

I certainly hope so.

What you really have is a court, the majority of which interprets, and applies the Constitution. They don't make policy and they don't legislate from the bench by inventing fictitional "rights".

 

Deductibles and co-pays are not going away, my friend. Instead , as the government gets further into this and has more and more difficulty paying for the program, deductibles and Co-pays are likely to increase, along with the rewriting of coverage in general to lower benefits.

Of course, rationing will have to begin somewhere in there.

Obamacare is not a magic bullet, it is a deadly one, and it's going to cost everyone a fortune and lower the quality and access of care that we are used to having.

Enjoy it. When you need it most, it will eventually fail you.

 

New Hampshire