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Discussion in 'Sports Forum' started by ccrobinson, Mar 26, 2010.

  1. ccrobinson

    ccrobinson Active Member

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    We're a little over a week away from Opening Day.

    BTW, what a weekend we have in store for the first weekend of April. In chronological order, we have the Final 4, the start of Doctor Who Season 5, Resurrection Sunday, Opening Day, and ending with the National Championship Game. That's a really nice 3 day stretch.

    Anyway, who do you like in MLB this year? Here are my picks for division winners.

    AL East - Boston Red Sox
    AL Central - Chicago White Sox
    AL West - Los Angeles Angels
    AL Wild Card - Tampa Bay Rays

    NL East - Philadelphia Phillies
    NL Central - St Louis Cardinals
    NL West - Colorado Rockies
    NL Wild Card - Atlanta Braves

    ALDS
    Chicago over Tampa Bay
    Boston over Los Angeles

    NLDS
    St Louis over Atlanta
    Philadelphia over Colorado

    ALCS
    Chicago over Boston

    NLCS
    Philadelphia over St Louis

    World Series
    Philadelphia over Chicago
     
  2. JohnDeereFan

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    I don't think there's any doubt that it will be Philly over somebody, but what made you pick Chicago? That was kind of out of...er, left field.
     
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    padredurand Well-Known Member
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    ccr, I thought at first there was something wrong with your keyboard. I looked closer and found that all the letters appear to be working. Then I thought, "Maybe ccr doesn't know how to spell it correctly. Let me be a friend and help you with some typing....

    NEW YORK YANKEES

    Now you just have to copy and paste where you put that Boston team. What was their name again? :tongue3: Then correct the ACLS pairings. I help you out some more with the World Series stuff after the Allstar break.

    My work here is done.
     
  4. ccrobinson

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    #1, the Sox have the best starting pitching in the division.
    #2, the Sox got better on offense.
    #3, the Sox got better on defense.

    From there, it's somewhat of a complete guess who's going to win in the postseason. I'm surprised nobody's had a beef with me picking the Angels instead of the Rangers.

    Reasons I didn't go with the Yankees. Letting Damon go and replacing him with Granderson doesn't seem like an upgrade to me. Letting Matsui go and replacing him with Gardner doesn't seem like an upgrade either. Javier Vazquez had a career year in 2009 that he won't repeat against tougher AL lineups in 2010.

    I think the Red Sox and Rays have gotten better and the Yankees have regressed a bit.


    It was the same team that beat the Yankees in the 2004 ALCS after being down 0-3. :tongue3:
     
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    The White Sox aren't that good. I'd probably pick them to win the AL Central, too, but they are an above-average team in a pathetic division.
     
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    AL
    West - Angels (not ready to jump on the Rangers wagon yet)
    Central - Tigers (can't pick the Twins in a new park)
    East - Boston
    WC - Tampa

    NL
    West - Rockies
    Central - Cardinals
    East - Phillies
    WC - Dodgers

    ALDS
    Boston over Tigers
    Tampa over Angels

    NLDS
    Cardinals over Rockies
    Phillies over Dodgers

    NLCS
    Phillies over Cardinals
    ALCS
    Boston over Tampa

    WS
    Phillies over Boston
     
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    TomVols, it seems your keyboard has the same flaw as ccr's. Every time you go to type in NEW YORK YANKEES it comes out Boston. Y'all should get that fixed.... :tongue3:
     
  8. TomVols

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    :laugh:

    I think the Yankees have taken a page from the Reds' front office playbook. They believe that older is better. I just agree with CCR. I think that on paper, the BoSox and Rays can hang with them. Of course, if divisions were won on paper, the Reds would be ten time defending NL Central champs. Okay, not quite. But you get my point.
     
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    ccr's probably right but you've got to hang with your boys! I'm bi-vocational and drive the shuttle bus for the local college. The college has over 40 NJCAA championships in many sports so it attracts students from all over the northeast including much of New England. As one student was boarding I noticed he was wearing a Red Sox hat and, kidding, told him he wasn't allowed to wear a Boston hat on the bus. He responded like he had been caught committing an unpardonable. I assured him I was just teasing and now the Boston thing has become a running gag on the bus. There's a handful of riders that try to "sneak" their Boston gear on the bus and see if I'll notice. This past Thursday we were waiting at a traffic light when a guy rode in front of me on a bicycle. He was wearing a blue Boston jacket and matching hat. I let off the brake a bit and rolled forward a few inches. One of the guys yelled, "Don't do it!" thinking I wasn't going to let a Boston fan ride in front of my bus either. :wavey:
     
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    Tommy, bless your pea-pickin' heart!
     
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    Have you seen my track record on this board of making predictions? I'm not very good at it. If anything's going to help your Yankees win, it's the fact that I'm picking against them. :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    I gave up on professional baseball some years ago after greed totally took over the game. There is no player loyalty to the fans or the team, no owner loyalty to the players or fans. [IMHO]

    Also, it just seems a waste of my time to sit in front of the boob-tube watching people throw a little white sphere at a fellow with a piece of wood trying to hit it.

    I used to enjoy baseball quite a lot. I hope the O's do well, but I won't be watching them.
     
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    For which part? :tongue3:

    The way I feel about the AL Central is someone HAS to win it. Of course, I forgot the Tigers and Royals are still in the same division!

    (Sorry.....had to be said)
     
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    Actually, as a thirty year season ticket holder, I can tell you first hand that the Phillies, both the organization and the players, are very good to their fans (so are the Flyers, for that matter).

    Phillies players are very involved in the community, from putting on clinics for kids to helping charitable causes.

    Two years ago, an organization I belong to wrote to the Phillies and asked if they could contribute some little something we could auction off to raise money for a children's charity we support.

    My brother in law, who is president of our organization, got a call back from John Brazier. Brazier said that if we would come and pick it up, four boxes of stuff would be waiting for us. He also arranged a two hour visit from the Phillie Phanatic for us.

    Autographed jerseys, bases, posters, tickets, even a couple of seats from Veterans Stadium and your home answering machine message recorded by Harry Kalas.

    It was amazing. We had so much stuff that we couldn't even put it all out. We had to save some of it for the next auction.

    The Phillies routinely have meet and greets, Q&A sessions and tours for their season ticket holders. My family has gotten to go down into the training area at CB Park (you'd be amazed how big it is inside) and watch the players take batting practice. My kids love Jason Werth and got to meet him and have their pictures taken with him. They got to meet Raul and Chase and Ryan and Brad Lidge and Davey Lopes.

    My brother in law and I have gotten to eat lunch with Greg Luzinski, Gary Maddox, and Gary Matthews.

    So I don't believe the "no respect" thing is necessarily true.
     
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    JohnDeereFan, CBT isn't interested in your "facts". Please stick to subjective opinions. :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    The Reds do the same thing all over Reds country. And I still believe that, despite how large the contracts are, baseball players share an unmitigated joy from winning and performing that is still like what you see on sandlots around our country.

    The problem? Fans who expect these guys to raise the dead because they're paid large sums. These are still men who do this for a living, paid to play a game. And they entertain us. They get what they want, we get what we want. Where's the problem?

    And by the way, when was this utopian era when the owners were beholden to fans, and the players just jumped at the whim and wish of the fans? When? As the old saying goes, the good ole days...weren't :saint:

    The problem is is it's now all about us. We want $5 tickets. We want 5,000 a night attendance without the team moving (what business stays without customers?) We want ___________ and we want it now.
     
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    You don't pay attention to baseball much, do you, cbt? Does the name Joe Mauer ring a bell? The 2009 AL MVP just signed a huge contract with the Twins to continue to stay and play baseball in Minnesota. He could have easily gone on the free agent market after this season and made more money but he didn't because he wanted to play for the Twins. Please explain how this coincides with the idea that player and owner loyalty doesn't exist.

    Next, please explain to me why owner/player loyalty should exist? For example, if I don't do my job and don't get things done at my work, my employer isn't going to continue to pay me. There's certainly nothing wrong with that arrangement, is there? Why should baseball owners be any different with the players?



    Then don't watch. Simple as that. I guarantee you nobody here cares whether you watch or not. Your post was the same as the people who post in Nascar threads about how they don't like Nascar. Why even post such nonsense? Who cares?


    Exactly. Even the greatest player of his time, Babe Ruth, was traded once.
     
  19. JohnDeereFan

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    Same with Shane Victorino. Victorino turned down two huge offers to stay in Philly. Just heard an interview with Phillies hitting instructor, Mike Schmidt, in which he said that Victorino didn't get nearly what he could have, all because he wants to play here.
     
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