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Why Was Jane Fonda Not Tried for Treason???

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by righteousdude2, Apr 6, 2010.

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  1. righteousdude2

    righteousdude2 Well-Known Member
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    I just watched FOX News, and they showed a clip of Jane Fonda claiming that those who said the was a wrong for posing on a Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun in Saigon - during the Viet Nam conflict - was a "myth!"

    It was no myth that she was in Saigon speaking out against our military... it was no myth that she visited the infamous "Saigon Hilton (POW camp)"... and it was no myth that she posed for that now infamous photo op sitting side-by-side with North Vietnamese soldiers on an anti-aircraft gun...

    If that is myth, than what is reality (in Jane's mind)???

    To this day, I believe that Fonda went way beyond the right to "speak freely" and IMHO, I still believe that she should have been branded a "traitor" and either kicked out of America, or, jailed.

    What do you think???

    Shalom,

    Pastor Paul :type:
     
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    Who's Jane Fonda?
     
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  3. Cutter

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    There is no question she should have been tried for treason. What she did was beyond reprehensible and it is a shame that people are trying to falsify the facts concerning her shenanigans. :BangHead:
     
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    First of all, the POW camp nickname was Hanoi Hilton, not Saigon Hilton. Secondly, part of the controversy was that Fonda was not allowed to visit the camp, but met with prisoners who had been abused at another site. Thirdly, this was half a century ago. Kind of late to worry about it now.

    Once again, check your facts before posting.
     
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    ...this from the same person who doesn't know that there were several prisons that received the facetious "Hilton" moniker.
     
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    The last I heard, Jane Fonda had made a converstion to Christianity and actively studying scripture.

    Pastor Paul, you may be spending eternity in heaven with Jane Fonda. How do you feel about that possibility?

    When she came to Kansas City several years ago, a veteran spit tobacco in her face. She refused to press charges. If I remember correctly, she even stated she understood why he was so upset.

    Why don't you show a sister in Christ some forgiveness?

    peace to you:praying:
     
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    I was in Vietnam when she was there. Still have never seen a film she is in and have left places when they are showing one in a home.

    But this was 40 years (not 50), so I would imagine the statute of limitations was up a long time ago. Back then, I would have agreed with you.
     
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    You haven't missed anything. She started out playing sexy characters in skimpy clothes and rode that reputation for thirty-some years.

    As one critic so aptly put it, "Her acting ability runs the gamut from A to B."

    I still remember Mystery Science Theater showing one of her movies and one of the robots yelling, "Run for the hills! She's gonna emote!"
     
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  9. Thinkingstuff

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    You ask a very good question. However, by adolesent self couldn't stay away from Barberella Queen of the Galaxy. I'm sorry now that I've seen it.
     
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    I personally think that what she did was disgusting. To condemn her of treason, you have to be Constitutional about it. Here's what the Constitution says about treason.


    It would be a judical mess trying to define "adhering to their enemies" and "giving them aid and comfort" in terms of what it meant in 1787 and what it meant two hundred years later.

    The Founding Fathers may have been talking about attacks upon our nation at home. Giving aid to an enemy who is attacking Boston or Atlanta.

    Can you see how it would have dragged out for decades as to did her actions fit the Constitutional defintion of treason?

    I love our men and women in uniform. I love my father who is a veteran of the Air Force. And I can't stand these celebrities who mock our people who defend us.

    But before we condemn someone for treason, the definition must be clear and you know that the courts would STILL be today trying to determine that. I mean, they can't even define pornography.

    And Bill Clinton can't even define "is".

    Our government (right, left, and otherwise) is a hot mess!
     
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    Do you believe in forgiveness? Remember, she confessed Christ many years after this affair.
     
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    Now that's she's 73 and judgment is impending of course she became a christian.
     
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    If she has truly been saved (and I have no reason to doubt it) the angels in heaven are rejoicing and we should do no less. We should be welcoming here and loving her through her spiritual growth and development instead of questioning her 'motives.'

    HERE is the perspective from a source that so many conservative Christians regard very highly.

    HERE is the CBN report.

    Sure looks genuine. What blessed news!

    On the OP I always hated what she did, but do we know that she gave aid a succour to the enemy? It looks to me like a foolish photo op. A LOT of people did stupid stuff in the 60s-70s. I would hate to be judged forever in my actions during that time.
     
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    should people be able to commit crimes, be saved and we expect them to never be accountable to society for their crimes?
    Now I see theres a time limit on charging someone. But had the time not run out yet I would think she'd need to be charged saved or not. A crime is a crime even if done by a christians, or one who becomes a christian.

    It's been years since i first heard of her being saved, so it's not news.
     
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    And Now She Says Her Actions Were a MYTH...

    Is that the sign of being a foloower of Jesus???
     
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    Gald She's Saved, but...

    ... she owes a personal debt to America and its Viet Nam vets. The kind of redemption she claims to have made, should be followed with an apology to all of America, for her, you said it, stupity and signs of those times!

    Instead of apologizing for her "stupidity" she is denying what cameras caught, as a "myth". That is my qualm. More than 50,000 Americans died for her right to go over there and do the opposite of what Bob Hope went over there to do, which was to lift up the morale of the fighting troops.

    If Jane is born-again, let her make that public statment telling america and the world how stupid she was.
     
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    And Your Point Is...

    ... I am just questioning why she has brought the subject back up, stating that those who accused her of this are reporting a "myth."

    This has nothing to do with not forgiving her.

    Besides, God forgave her, but, mankind needs to hear some taking of responsibility for her actions back then... Not her defending those "wild-wacky-days" as being a "myth!"
     
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    So will that be your judgement on whether or not she is truly saved? Most Americans haven't a clue about this ancient history. I am willing to forgive her and pray for her spiritual growth and look forward to seeing her in heaven.

    I am intrigued by the story, but didn't find it googling. I would have to hear/read her comments in context to know more :(.
     
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    Found it HERE - will have to have a look in detail tomorrow
     
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    I guess saying that it was 40 years ago and the statute of limitations was up wasn't good enough for you.

    Yes, I believe in forgiveness. I've experienced it and given it. I choose not to watch any of her movies. Forgiveness is given. trust is earned. Maybe she's a real believer in Jesus. That's wonderful. I am not trying to get her banned or anything else. I am not condemning those brave souls who sit through one of her movies. I just said, I wouldn't.

    If that's not good enough... i won't lose sleep.
     
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