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Arizona goes it alone with tough immigration laws

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  1. FR7 Baptist

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    I'm for allowing police officers to arrest illegal immigrants, but this bill is nothing but an ethnic profiling bill. How is an officer going to develop reasonable suspicion that someone is an illegal alien as opposed to a legal alien or a citizen that is the wrong color?
     
    #1 FR7 Baptist, Apr 14, 2010
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    As a former Military Police in Southern California I can tell you that illegals often stand out in several ways. But most often they do not speak a word of english.
     
    #2 Revmitchell, Apr 14, 2010
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    So you are saying that an Englishman who is here illegally would be easily able to avoid deportation?
    How about a national ID card
     
    #3 Salty, Apr 14, 2010
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    What's wrong with ethnic profiling? When 90% of the illegal aliens are of one ethnic background, let's understand that and profile in that manner.
     
    #4 matt wade, Apr 14, 2010
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    Stop confusing the liberals with logic. I say round them up and give them to Sheriff Joe.
     
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  6. FR7 Baptist

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    No, that's too much government involvement in my life.

    Because as a *Hispanic person, I don't want cops harassing me as I walk down the streets looking for my green card, given that I'm a United States citizen. "Your papers, please?"

    *My grandmother's from El Salvador, but the rest of my family are non-Hispanic white people, so I'm only one-fourth Hispanic. Plus her family is of mostly Spanish decent, so she's on the light end of the Hispanic spectrum. So I don't look very Hispanic or anything except I tan easily and have dark hair. Most people would never guess unless I told them, but I have had people ask me before.
     
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    So, it's for personal and emotional reasons rather than logical ones?
     
    #7 matt wade, Apr 15, 2010
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    Good gracious...that's twice in a week I've agreed w/Paul.

    That boy's getting smarter by the day! :eek: :tongue3: :laugh:
     
    #8 rbell, Apr 15, 2010
  9. FR7 Baptist

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    No, for reasons of privacy and civil rights. The problem with this bill is that I don't think reasonable suspicion plus no documents rises to the level of probable cause for an arrest.
     
    #9 FR7 Baptist, Apr 15, 2010
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    Suspicion of coming into the country illegally and not having an American ID is reason for an arrest. Throughout my life time as a white American I have been asked for my ID many a great many reasons.
     
    #10 Revmitchell, Apr 15, 2010
  11. FR7 Baptist

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    I've had to show ID many times as well, but I've never had the police ask to see it. If they did, I would show it to them. It's a good idea to carry an ID with you, but I don't want to criminalize walking down the street without ID for United States citizens. I do support allowing police to arrest or issue criminal summons for illegal immigrants if there is probable cause.
     
    #11 FR7 Baptist, Apr 15, 2010
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