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How is one "in Christ"?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Dr. Walter, Apr 30, 2010.

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  1. Dr. Walter

    Dr. Walter New Member

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    My friends,

    The Lord Jesus addressed his disciples as "friends" and so I hope you are not offended if I address you as "my friends."
    How do you believe we become "in Christ" and is this the true relationship/position of all true believers before as well as after the cross?
     
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    In Christ Redemptively

    Is there a difference between being "in Christ" redemptively versus "in Christ" representatively/metaphorically/publicly?
     
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    Dr.Walter,
    here is another quote from A Baptist Catechism....with commentary By WR.Downing
    it is available here:http://www.lulu.com/product/paperbac...entary/6135589
     
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    DR.W
    here is JL.Dagg on this
     
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    Thank you for your response and I certainly agree with Bro. Downing in what he has said as well as with Bro. Dagg. However, neither address the believer before Pentecost in these statements.

    Do you believe Abraham was "in Christ" as much as you are "in Christ" redemptively (Rom. 8:9)?
     
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    .............I do........ :)
     
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    I do tooooo (Gal. 3:17 "in Christ").


     
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    Know therefore that they that are of faith, the same are sons of Abraham. And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all the nations be blessed. So then they that are of faith are blessed with the faithful Abraham. Gal 3:7-9
     
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    Yes

    39And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:

    40God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.

    39And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

    40And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

    56Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.

    57Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?

    58Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.


    Ot saints received Christ through faith in the promised seed,{Jesus}which you men have already posted.

    Ot saints always looked for the promised seed;
    On the last day,the one complete body of Christ will actually assemble.
     
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    Actually Dagg makes reference to Romans 8;
    This passage covers all of the elect for all time'for whom
    he did foreknow
    Pastor Downing does as well in the commentary I copied from.I just am limited as to how much I can copy and paste. It is a wonderful study tool.
    Here is the church website....it has many helpful sermons, and some free literature on it. www.SGBCSV.ORG
     
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    Every child of God, elect from the foundation of the world, is "in Christ" as much as those elect children of God, still to be born.
    This is why none will be lost.
     
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    I certainly agree with you. Now, that being the case, is spiritual union with Christ one and the same as being made a member of some kind of church?


     
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    short answer: no.
     
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    To Abraham and his seed were the promises made.

    I also think the beggar into Abraham's bosom was in Christ or would be today.
    He died in a positional way to Abraham that the dead in Christ are to Christ relative to inheritance of the kingdom of God.

    See also Rom. 8:9-11
     
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    Again, I agree with you.

     
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    What if that kind of church is the body of Christ?
     
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