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Possible Attack of Freedom of Religion by the Obama Administration

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Ruiz, Jun 24, 2010.

  1. Ruiz

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    If what the article suggested as a possibility, be true, then there would be widespread persecution of Christians in america.
     
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    From the article:



    "Freedom of worship means the right to pray within the confines of a place of worship or to privately believe, said Nina Shea, director of the Center for Religious Freedom and member of the commission. "It excludes the right to raise your children in your faith; the right to have religious literature; the right to meet with co-religionists; the right to raise funds; the right to appoint or elect your religious leaders, and to carry out charitable activities, to evangelize, [and] to have religious education or seminary training."
     
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    Exactly. If that become the policy of the united states, then my family would be in big trouble.

    We would break the law both in homeschooling and raising them in the fear and admonision of the Lord.

    My library would be a total offense to the law, and my Bible illegal.

    I would break the law whenever I met with my brethren for prayer, fellowship, or Bible study...as I am about to go do..haha

    We would break the law by rejecting a state appointed elder/pastor.

    We would break the law by evangelizing.

    We would break the law and go to seminary.

    We would break the law by helping orphans and widows.

    Sounds unrealistic, but my family would be in violation to every point of it.
     
  5. Ruiz

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    I do not think there would be an immediate repudiation of these rights... yet. However, states that do have a religious exemption clause to homeschool would make homeschooling more difficult and dangerous.

    I am not saying this is not dangerous, but the steps to the worst case scenario as designed above would not be immediate. However, this possibility is extremely scary, scary enough that if my family were in danger in how we raise our children from a Christian perspective, I would consider leaving the United States.
     
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    QUESTION: Ruiz, do you think that Administration even knows the difference? Dont think anyone on that staff even practices religion much less intellect & reason.
     
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    I do think the administration practices the religion of secularism. I, as well, believe they are intellectuals, schooled in the intellectual secular social Darwinism.

    Yet, do I think they know anything about true religion? No!
     
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    It has been demonstrated that some there are students of Mao.
     
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    I find this truly frightening:

    I'm sorry but WHO started it?? Relations were fractured on 9/11 because THEY KILLED US!!!! I live in NY. I lost people in the towers and have numerous others who just made it out. What the heck kind of carp is that?????????? AAARRRRRGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!! Yeah, let's be all nicey nice to the bullies.
     
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    The "they" you referred to was a very few Muslims, not all Muslims as your use of the word "they" implied.

    It would be like blaming all Christians for the Crusades.
     
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    Unless the U.S. constitution is amended to change Amendment No. 1 there is no need to act like Chicken Little over an article as referenced in this thread.
     
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    Yet their very own holy book says to kill all those who don't believe in Allah. What does THAT say?
     
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    You're right, KenH. We need to defeat terrorists; we've never been at war with Islam.
     
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    1. No one has acted like chicken little
    2. There should be a constant and vigilant watch for those who would like to subvert the country from its founding.
     
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    Ken,

    We have other amendments which are ignored. The right to due process and the right to not be searched without a proper search warrant. We also have the Constitution which says that they are only authorized to do what the Constitution gives them authorization to do. I do not believe many listen to that section.

    On that front, I think they are trying to redefine the first amendment. That is the point.
     
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    And you know as well as I do that most people who identify themselves as Muslims adhere to what the Koran says to the same degree that most people who identify themselves as Christians adhere to what The Bible says.
     
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    That is a bunch of bologna.
     
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    Actually, every Muslim I've met is quite steeped in their religion. It is rare to find a nominal Muslim especially one who's family is Muslim.
     
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    I don't believe that most Muslims want to kill you or kill me. If you want to live your life believing such nonsense, you are welcome to it.
     
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    I do think we can overreact to this news. It doesn't change what we're called to do. Yes, if this were realized it would change our lives. But let's face it: we're spoiled. If we as Christians had to deal with the kind of persecution they would face in much of the world throughout history, I think we would be way more effective.

    There wouldn't be anymore of this comfortable Christianity that is so prevalent.

    But so often we fight for the right to be comfortable. Why is that?
     
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