Just obey it!

Tell you what - you follow your logic and I'll take the advice of the brilliant men who gave us our beloved KJT of the scriptures:

Those guys were brilliant! I am so grateful for their work and their advice on how to use it. Some would have us follow the counsel of Sixtus Quintus and forbid the variety of readings. The 'dictators of Rome' have been replaced by a few 'dictators of fundamentalism' who would tragically tell us that God is limited to one human translation. These guys told us that 'the eyes of the world are now opened' and I join them in saying 'God be thanked!'

 

Whoa! I agree that the Bible is authoritative.

But it's not just as easy as reading and obeying. We have to exegete and interpret. We have to know the context in which it was written. That's why we have Bible studies and sermons. That's why people study Biblical languages and exegesis. That's why we have Biblical archeology and historical theologians. It's in order to be good stewards of Biblical text in our day today.

If it were always that easy with the Bible, we wouldn't need much of that. We also wouldn't have well-meaning, honest scholars as well as faithful followers who disagree so profoundly on many, many topics.

We just have to be careful.

 

This reminds me of the old joke about the guy who asked God to give him a message from Scripture for the day, flipped open his Bible and then pointed to a verse without looking. The verse read, "And Judas went out and hanged himself." The fella says, "That can't be right" and flips his Bible open, points again, and this time the verse reads "Go and do thou likewise." He decides to try again, and this time the verse is "And what thou doest, do quickly."

If only it were that easy. Unfortunately, well-meaning but misguided men (at best) and straight-out evil men have taken what the Bible says and twisted it to fit their own conclusions.

I have read from cover to cover at least 5 different translations of the Bible in English and Spanish and have never found anything that led me to mistrust or doubt God's Word. The problem (as I see it) is those who pace their faith in Man's translation of God's Word instead of placing their faith in God who promised to preserve His Word - and has - in a variety of translations in a variety of languages all of which we are blessed to have.

To follow the logic in the OP would mean to deny the plain teaching of 2 Timothy 2:15. God's Word is milk AND meat- milk for the babe (easy to digest) and meat for those who are growing and need to chew (study).

2 Peter 3:15,16- (bolding mine)

And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures.

 

Ummmmm...where do we get that then?

 

With all due respect, I find your post ridiculous and totally illogical.

 

So, do you agree with those brilliant men who gave us the KJT or not?

 

No, your post was about the importance of using one translation and I gave the view of of those who did one of the greatest translations of all time. I think their opinion is directly on topic. Your OP had no scripture outside of your signature line, so you set the pattern. Your post was based on your opinion and I gave the opinion of those great men who gave us the amazing and venerable KJT of the scriptures. These men thought that the best way to know the sense of the scriptures in order to obey them was to study a variety of translations.

Here is your post in case you forgot.

Do you agree with those great men?

 

The argument that the 1611 translation team and other church leaders (Augustine, ect.) advocated using different translations is not relevant to today's "modern" translations. Had they had the NIV for example, available to them, I doubt they would have made that statement. The "other" translations that they referred to were the Tyndale, Wycliffe, Bishops, Great Bible, ect....which all read "against thee".

 

Well, at least we have an answer.

The brilliant translators who gave us one of the greatest translations ever produced were idiots for suggesting we use various translations.

I for one hold these men in much higher regard than that. I am sad that those who love their work so much consider them idiots.

 

Nice hyperbole.

 

May I be so brash as to point out that what is hurtful is being forced to THINK when one is faced with "things that are different", rather than to STUDY out WHY they are different or to ignore the question altogether.

And the bolded sentence is exactly what you ARE suggesting, despite your protestations to the contrary.

 

I doubt very much this would be the case. That is evidenced by the fact that they allowed for the questioning of their word choices via marginal notes.

 

Question for stilllearning.

If, as you claim, 'evil men and seducers are waxing worse and worse' and spiritual knowledge is always declining, how are you smarter than the KJV translators when it comes to the merit of translations?

I, for one, will obey God's word, as you suggest. But I will do so by studying a variety of translations, for I agree with those great men of 1611 that this is necessary to find out the sense of the scriptures.