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Need A Job? Too Bad!

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by poncho, Dec 16, 2010.

  1. poncho

    poncho Well-Known Member

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    The Good Jobs Are Being Shipped Out Of America As Part Of The New One World Economy.

    I hope that you enjoy the cheap foreign-made plastic trinkets that you will be exchanging with your family and friends this holiday season, because they are literally destroying the U.S. economy. As part of the new "one world economy" that both Democrats and Republicans insist is so good for us, millions of good paying middle class jobs have been shipped out of America. Do you need a job? Are you wondering where all the good jobs went? Well, the next time you are out just walk into a store and start looking at the product labels. Most of the things that are sold in our stores are now made out of the country. So if you need a good paying job to support your family that is just too bad - you have been merged into a global labor pool where you must compete for jobs with people on the other side of the globe willing to work for less than a tenth of what you usually make. Welcome to the "one world economy" where big global corporations make a fortune exploiting slave labor on the other side of the world while "overly expensive American workers" get dumped out on the street.

    Are you in favor of a redistribution of wealth? Most of the time when the phrase "redistribution of wealth" is brought up, conservatives and libertarians visibly cringe - as they should. But did you know that right now the greatest redistribution of wealth in the history of the world is taking place and our politicians are doing nothing about it?

    For a moment, imagine a giant map of the world. On that giant map, put a huge pile of money on the United States, and also put a huge pile of money on China and on the OPEC nations. Now imagine a big hand coming along once a month that takes tens of billions of dollars out of the U.S. pile and puts it into the piles of China and the OPEC nations.

    As this continues month after month after month, what is eventually going to happen?

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  2. matt wade

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    Welcome back from 1984. That's how long all these products have been made outside the USA.
     
  3. poncho

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    Keep voting for the two party globalist system. Things are bound to get better. They promised.
     
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    Keep throwing you vote away on third parties. They are bound to win. They promised.
     
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    When Chinese wages rise five bucks and US wages drop another five bucks the jobs will come back.
     
  6. poncho

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    I vote for principle not parties. I've included a definition of principle in this post just in case you forgot or never learned what that word meant.

    By that time Americans will all be living in tents made in China.
     
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    Yes, I see the definition is "the laws or facts of nature underlying the working of an artificial device". That would explain quite a bit about you.
     
  8. poncho

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    You being free to mouth off on BB 24 hours a day says alot about you too my friend. :laugh:

    And no Matt evidently you don't see at all.

    Our written constitution is based on the laws and facts of nature and all earthly governments are artificial devices.
     
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    The problem is not the two parties.

    The problem is with the voter who does not look beyond the party label. We are too lazy, in general, to do that.

    Consider who got re-elected in November. Of those who were re-elected, were the the One-World-Government type, the Obama Stimulus type, the Obamacare type?

    If so, what does that say about the voters in the areas represented by those people. Are they purely ignorant of economics, unions, taxes and expenditures, or politics in general? Are they so lazy that all their votes are for whichever candidate has the "D" or the "R" by their name?

    It isn't the party - it is the voter.

    Voters in America are terribly ignorant of history AND economics. Therefore, we all also very gullible.
     
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    Tipping Point: 25 Signs That The Coming Financial Collapse Is Now Closer Then Ever

    The financial collapse that so many of us have been anticipating is seemingly closer then ever. Over the past several weeks, there have been a host of ominous signs for the U.S. economy. Yields on U.S. Treasuries have moved up rapidly and Moody’s is publicly warning that it may have to cut the rating on U.S. government debt soon. Mortgage rates are also moving up aggressively. The euro and the U.S. dollar both look incredibly shaky. Jobs continue to be shipped out of the United States at a blistering pace as our politicians stand by and do nothing. Confidence in U.S. government debt around the globe continues to decline. State and local governments that are drowning in debt across the United States are savagely cutting back on even essential social services and are coming up with increasingly “creative” ways of getting more money out of all of us. Meanwhile, tremor after tremor continues to strike the world financial system. So does this mean that we have almost reached a tipping point? Is the world on the verge of a major financial collapse?

    Let’s hope not, but with each passing week the financial news just seems to get eve worse. Not only is U.S. government debt spinning wildly toward a breaking point, but many U.S. states (such as California) are in such horrific financial condition that they are beginning to resemble banana republics.

    But it is not just the United States that is in trouble. Nightmarish debt problems in Greece, Spain, Portugal, Ireland, Italy, Belgium and several other European nations threaten to crash the euro at any time. In fact, many economists are now openly debating which will collapse first – the euro or the U.S. dollar.

    Sadly, this is the inevitable result of constructing a global financial system on debt. All debt bubbles eventually collapse. Currently we are living in the biggest debt bubble in the history of the world, and when this one bursts it is going to be a disaster of truly historic proportions.

    So will we reach a tipping point soon? Well, the following are 25 signs that the financial collapse is rapidly getting closer….

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    The problem is we no longer have two parties. We have just one globalist party made up of two factions.

    War is peace! Freedom is slavery! Ignorance is strength!
     
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    The redistribution of wealth.

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    Yes. The wealth will continue to fly from the working class up the food chain till 80% or the world's population are serfs, ronin, and landless serfs.

    In my mind I can't see how the entire world economy can crash at the same time when the international corporations own or control everything. Why should they crash their own empire? They will continue to "nickel and dime" us down the food chain.
     
  13. poncho

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    One world, one fiat currency. Need I say more billwald?
     
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    The single currency would at least cut out the money changers.
     
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    Yeah but it would put those who create the fiat currency out of thin air that much more in control of us. Like they don't have almost total control over us now.

    I expect owning gold and silver to made illegal at some point. Can't have the threat of any real currency to compete with the fiat stuff ya know.

    Going one step further . . .

    I expect that all currency will be made illegal at some point and replaced with a mark of some sort. If you don't have the mark you won't be able to buy or sell anything. Sounds kind of like some far fetched "conspiracy theory" doesn't it?

    But, first things first. First a global fiat currency . . .
     
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    >I expect owning gold and silver to made illegal at some point.

    Which is why I think the "gold bugs" are not thinking clearly.

    It is obvious that runaway inflation is the all time economic evil. Our owners will not let that happen again because it messes them as much as it does us. A steady inflation - say under 5% - doesn't hurt the rich people because they are making 10% on their investment. It doesn't hurt business because it can be planned for - that's why the Chicago Board of Trade was invented. It doesn't hurt anyone who gets a COLA.

    Most people fail to differentiate between money inflation and price inflation. This recent invention of trillions of dollars has NOT caused price inflation because NONE of it has been used to buy consumer goods. Gas and oil is going up because the dollar is being trashed. If there was a one world money then this could not happen.
     
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    Is that why the Euro is crashing?
     
  18. billwald

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    I've been watching the dollar, Canadian dollar, pound, and euro for a couple of years. They have all been in the same range +/- 5% against the US dollar for a long time.
     
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    By the time we have a global currency only the top of the food chain (global bankstas and corporitos) will be able to afford to purchase things like gas and oil and food. The rest of us will be fighting over the scraps from their table.

    There may be a way out this mess though. But . . .

    How Do We Shift Power to the People and Away from Concentrated Corporate Power?

    The power of concentrated corporate capital was on display in Washington last week, as it has been all year. The incoming Chair of the Congressional committee responsible for banking regulation, Rep. Spencer Bachus (R-AL) says “my view is that Washington and the regulators are there to serve the banks.” And, President Obamasat down with the CEOs of 20 large corporations to talk about how he could help Big Business increase their already record profits. And, in the Supreme Court, 13 of 16 business cases were ruled in favor of business interests.

    These actions echo a year where Sen. Durbin complained the banks “own” the Congress and where President Obama worked with the health insurance industry to keep them in control of health care while claiming it was “reform,” and where the Supreme Court in Citizens United vastly increased corporate power in elections by allowing unlimited spending.

    Corporate capital dominates the government and prevents the changes urgently needed in so many crisis issues for the nation and the world.

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    This isn't going to happen if we all keep our subscriptions to the false left vs paradigm though. We need to stop being distracted by the notion that it's the "other side" that's to blame for everything.

    We can no longer afford to live in a "house divided".
     
  20. billwald

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    Yes, but the Constitution was designed to prevent the voters from taking control. The rich people understand human sin nature - greed - even if Baptists don't. We hold a revolution every two years but it only takes a half year for the new people to learn to love living in Fat City.
     
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