Repentance and Faith:Intellect or Emotion?

Lot's of folks think faith is some sort of a magical, mystical thing. And because they don't get some feeling they wonder and doubt if they have faith. This is not faith, faith, or believeing is something you can know for a fact.

If I asked you right now to name someone you trust, could you do it? Of course, you might say your spouse or your parents. Do you know this by feeling? No, you know it by knowledge.

Do we tend to trust total strangers? No. Why? Because we do not know him.

The best way to trust Jesus is to get to know him through the scriptures. When we learn how good he is, how loving and merciful, how truthful and honest he is, then we can easily believe and trust him.

Look at the examples in scripture. When people were asked if they believed on Jesus, they knew for a certainty.

 

I hold that it is impossible to believe in someone/something we do not know. This doesn't mean we have to know the someone or something perfectly. John's Gospel shows progressive belief. Look at the end of chapter 4 at the account of the healing of the nobleman's son. He believed twice, saved once, why? This is because he was convinced by Jesus sign (John 20:30-31) that Jesus was indeed the Son of God and thus he and his family trusted Jesus.

With that said, faith includes mind, will, and emotion. I have heard people say that they believed and were saved apart from their knowledge of Christ. Later in their lives they realized who Jesus was and turned to Him. On the authority of Scripture I would disagree with their testimony. When we trust Christ, we must know about Him, then we must agree with the facts, then the most important part is that through God's work within our hearts we connect what we know to reality and trust in Him. This is the only logical response one can have- Complete trust and conversion.

Something I have pondered is that throughout our Christian lives we make decisions to go against our flesh. We choose to deny ourselves and follow Jesus daily. How does that differ from our conversion experience? I find that my conversion experience was a somewhat natural repentance in my heart because of what God had done. Yet, later in my walk I find that natural repentance isn't so natural but painful, self-denying, and a tough thing to do. What are your thoughts?

 

I like the way you put this.:thumbs:

 

Thank you. And I would add a little more. To believe on Jesus means to place yourself in his hands and depend on him to save you.

An analogy. You are in a burning building. Firemen below call for you to jump and promise to catch you.

If you have no confidence in them you will not dare jump.

But let's say you do have confidence in them, will that alone save you? No, you have to actually jump and commit yourself to them.

Believeing on Jesus means to come to him in your heart and cast youself upon him, depending on him alone to save you.

It is just like letting go and jumping out that window, trusting the firemen below to catch you.

And you can know without a doubt if you've done that, can't you?

 

I am not a pastor or church leader, but a retired businessman sitting in the pew. Here are my quick thoughts on faith.

I have always been interested in faith or belief. In the past I have done several word studies and researched the faith process through the modern lens of psychology. At this point I have two observations to share.

Observation 1
Instead of splitting faith into heart (emotion) and mind (intellect), I prefer to choose the dichotomy found in the version of the Shema (Jewish profession of faith) that Jesus spoke in the gospel of Mark (the first commandment).

• Heart
• Soul
• Mind
• Strength

Here are four versions of the Shema preserved in Scripture.

Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. (Deut. 6:4-5; KJB).

Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. (Matt. 22:37; KJB).

And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. (Mark 12:30; KJB).

And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. (Luke 10:27; KJB).​

And here is a related verse that appears to split faith into the two components of heart and soul.

But if from thence thou shalt seek the LORD thy God, thou shalt find him, if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul. (Deut 4:29; KJB).​

Observation 2
Ultimately, in my opinion, faith is a decision. Now decisions often imply the mental process of the mind. However, when we look at how people make decisions in every day life, we often find they do so with other than the mind.

An axiom of business advertising is people usually make purchase decisions with their hearts (influenced by the five senses of touch, taste, sight, smell, and hearing); people rarely make purchase decisions with their minds. Therefore, many advertisements--messages geared to influence decisions--pull at the heartstrings more than the workings of the mind.

...Bob

 

Excellent observations Bob, and I believe you are correct. You see these fellows who marry multiple women and take their money. These fellows gain trust by appealing to the emotions. Oftentimes other family members who are not under the con artist's spell warn the women, but because they think they are in true love will not listen.

So, you are correct, there is an emotional aspect to faith.

 

The literal translation of 'repent' is 'a change of mind', so I would say there is a definite intellectual component to it.

I believe repentance was meant to be the main message to the Jew (the need to repent is almost always directed at Jewish audiences.) The Jews needed to "change their minds" about who the Messiah was. Gentiles didn't need to change their minds about the Jewish Messiah since they didn't believe in one to begin with. Gentiles were urged to 'believe'. (And yes, I am aware of Acts 11:18 and Acts 26:20.)

Indeed. This is quickly realized if you compare the conversion experience of today with those in the first century. First century people had to intellectually accept the bodily resurrection of Jesus as a fact. This was the main message in Peter's and Paul's sermons in Acts. Nowadays, most people don't have to think much about it intellectually. Rather they have to emotionally consider that they are a hell-bound sinner in need of a savior.

This is fascinating subject matter to me. I don't have time to go into it in more depth right now, hopefully later tonight or tomorrow.