Something to think about for the new year

Awesome article !!!!!

I used to heavily partake in the KJVO debate. But I don't have time anymore, got a youth group to teach and local missions to participate in. You know, making myself useful actually.

 

I certainly agree that the church is in trouble and far more so then we recognize, but I do not agree it is because of holding to doctrine as this writer seems to suggest. I believe it is because we do not hold to sound doctrine.
The writer said this " the church has all but stopped its public proclamation against sin. It has begun to believe the lie that the church is weak and powerless to stop the momentum of social decay. It flounders when faced with immorality and stumbles instead of standing strong against sin!"

That I agree with.

 

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Preach the Word, Preach the Word, Preach the Word.

 

I'm with freeatlast on this one.

The carm article pretends that all who claim Christianity, other than mainstream cults, are to be accepted into loving arms of fellowship, regardless of their doctrine, yet out the other side, says we are to defend doctrine and stand for sound doctrine. That's the big picture it paints as a whole.

When we stand for sound doctrine, and live godly in Christ, we will be persecuted even by Christians.

My trouble here with the things that go on: It is almost to the point some question salvation by prying to see what a person thought about Calvinism, even prior to and leading up to and on their journey to salvation, rather than did said person trust solely upon the Work of Christ alone (and that period!) and accepting that maybe said person did not understand all the implications of theology, but only believed and were consequently changed. This is done instead of seeing what a person thinks about the Savior who died for them. It's becoming "What did you think about Calvin?" instead of being about Jesus Christ our Lord and what He has done.

I will stand against false doctrine, and if called unloving, sobeit. There is an allowance for it to get heated, while being done in love. Love doesn't mean without heat, how many times did I get a loving whooping growing up? See 2 Timothy 4.

The article was a nice gesture.

Happy New Year to all!

 

What freeatlast said times 10!

 

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You took the words right out of my mouth....& I have experience because I have been trying to find a church in my area that will hold & teach sound doctrine.....unfortunately even orthodox churches are caving into liberalism & thats the real problem.

 

Really? Not here.

I'm sorry if some persons analogy of this article, which isn't absolute truth, nor necessarily totally accurate, doesn't agree with yours.

Happy New Year!

 

How is the church in trouble? Mat 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Mat 16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. Have you ever thought if it is in trouble it might not be Gods church? The church is the saved the believers not a white building or brick building with basket ball courts and base ball fields. It is a city set on a hill that cannot be hide. Honor and Glory to God praise be the name of the Lord! My soul rejoices in him. Thank you Lord!

 

I heartily agree with the article, and have been saying as much in many of my posts here on the board since I joined!

God is not divided. God's Word cannot be divided and used against itself. Christ's "high priestly prayer" was that "We would be one as He is one with the Father..."

While we can and should hash out doctrinal differences, they are not what truly matters, and one is not a heathen or heretic for holding a slightly different "orthodox" theological position. The road to heaven is "narrow" not the sharp edge of a razor blade. We ought not become injured when walking the narrow road, for the narrow road is the road to life, not death!

Hopefully in the New Year, we can resume our debates, but in a spirit of brotherly (and sisterly) love!

Blessings all... :love2:

 

glfredrick I am not trying to be ugly here but that sounds a whole lot like the modern liberal movement of accepting everyone and everything under the cloak of love. It is sometimes stated as "we agree that we disagree" but the scriptures say can two walk together unless they be in agreement? The answer is no. This post modern idealism of accepting all the claimed small differences only leads to accepting big differences and that leads to what we see today the denying of sound doctrine. While I agree that the road is narrow and we who are on it need to be in agreement there is also a broad road and most are on that road which has both extreme and not so extreme theological differences.
You mentioned Christ's "high priestly prayer as well as the fact that God is not divided, and that is true, but in the mist of the prayer and the non division there is agreement and I have found that where that agreement comes into contact with those of like mind the love flows. So doctrinal issues do matter because they present the reason for the bonding of those who are present. If someone has another Jesus or presents another gospel or claims that clear scripture does not apply today then there is no unity. A church with widely differing doctrinal beliefs is not a united church. It is however confussion running here and there and what we are seeing today.
Instead we are to be this;
That we [henceforth] be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, [and] cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, [even] Christ:
It is one thing for someone to hold a different doctrine out of ignorance and another to allow them to contnue in it and just accept them in their error. As you said God is not devided and neither does He accept unsound doctrine and neither should we even for the sake of unity since error is not unified.

 

bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

Uh, I love ya bro--->:love2:<----- but, not quite.

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I'm sure you were being sarcastic! Thanks for the laugh though!!!!

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Amen!

Amy, thank you for sharing the link.

...Bob