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More hate crime idiocy--folks...it's a CRIME.

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by rbell, Mar 31, 2011.

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  1. rbell

    rbell Active Member

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    Ah, more hate crime idiocy...

    Boy, 12, charged with hate crime for attempting to rip religious head scarf off head of classmate



    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_...ts_12yrold_boy_hate_arrest.html#ixzz1IBsmE2rt



    This thug is a loser, plain and simple. He's been aggravating this poor girl for a while. Why is a hate crime needed, though? Throw the book at this cretin. But stop it with the hate crime silliness.

    Would they have punished him as much had he ripped a True Love Waits ring off a Baptist girls's finger? I doubt it. But even if I'm wrong...this guy oughta be punished for his actions based on the actions themselves. And those penalties should be scary harsh. Frankly, I say public beating and a day or two in the stocks would be a good start. If that doesn't work, make him serve as Barney Frank's intern. That'll scare anybody straight!

    Quit elevating victims to different levels based on their victimhood PC status. Folks are equal...start punishing folks equally (and for goodness' sake...nail this guy to the wall! He's a news headline waiting to happen.
     
  2. mandym

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    I honestly would like to know what the bigger agenda behind the hate crimes laws is.
     
  3. Earth Wind and Fire

    Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known Member
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    Look at the bigger picture & also where the crime happened SI NY. A growing Muslim population with about a billion people confirmed as Muslim in this world.

    How many of them are actually terroristic....I find most of them peaceable....maybe 10,000 radical (and most radicals not in this country). So are we, by these acts of violence, instigating & propagating future terrorists? I just dont know.
     
  4. rbell

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    The empowerment of groups that desire power.

    It's why you never see "hate crimes" enforced in black-on-white crime.

    More so, IMHO, it's to empower the gay lobby. We see a concerted effort to add "sexual orientation" to the train wrecks we call "hate crime legislation."

    Finally, it's simply to give government more power.

    When a government is empowered to police thought (which is what hate crime laws do)...that is the apex of govermental power.
     
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    Well, I can tell you that my daughter had her backpack ripped off of her back and thrown across the hall, smashing into lockers and a boy screamed in her face "You believe in Jesus? I'll beat you up!!" Guess what was done.

    Yep. :BangHead:
     
  6. rbell

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    Well, if it's a public school, I would guess they enrolled your daughter in sensitivity training for being such a bigot. :tear:

    (I wish that were humorous, but it's more true than anything else...)
     
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    Sorry to hear what happened to her. How did she take the persecution?
     
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    She just walked over, picked up her backback and walked away. I called the school and notified them and it was the only time she had anything like that happen, thank heavens.
     
  9. rbell

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    Ann, I hope your Daughter has had a positive impact on the cretins that threatened her.

    And may God reward the administration accordingly, for not protecting students such as your daughter.
     
  10. kyredneck

    kyredneck Well-Known Member
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    It's dajooz.

    http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=u...nfluence on hate crime hate speech laws&type=

    http://www.google.com/search?source...=ADL+influence+on+hate+crime+hate+speech+laws

    ....and the day may well come when I could be imprisoned and or fined for articulating that observation in the manner that I just have.....or for just articulating it, period.
     
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  11. NiteShift

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    Many groups have pushed for hate-crime laws:


    People for the American Way,
    National Asian Pacific American Legal Consortium,
    Southern Poverty Law Center,
    Japanese American Citizens League,
    Center for Democratic Renewal,
    ACLU.

    Just to name a few.
     
  12. rbell

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    Agreed...there are several on the "hate crime" bandwagon...
     
  13. Chessic

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    My understanding is that we've already killed many times that number in our various wars against Muslim nations. And thousands more seem to turn up every day.

    Recently I watched a news report that claimed Muslims in the Middle East, where most of the radicals come from, are purposefully trying to "outbreed" Israel and the West. The report said that men have an average of 8-10 children. And this has been going on for some time.

    I think it's fair to estimate the number of radicals much, much higher, certainly in the hundreds of thousands, and probably in the millions worldwide. And yes, we are turning some frustrated and bitter young Muslims into outraged rioters, militants, and terrorist Jihadists.
     
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    And NAACP probably has been on that bandwagon the longest, which at one time may have been understandable.
     
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    One of the reasons young men in Egypt were in rebellion against Mubarack was said to be the lack of jobs and opportunity. I have read that the Egyptian economy under Mubarack actually was doing pretty well, but that the huge and continual increases in population just swamped the number of jobs available.
     
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    *******

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/articles/MacDonald-Sotomayor.html
    “.....Whatever Jewish self conceptions of their role in American ethnic politics, the only consistent thread has been to oppose the interests of the White, European-derived majority. In addition to favoring massive non-White immigration and promoting programs that pathologize White identity and interests, making alliances with other minority groups has been a critically important part of that effort.

    The main Jewish organizations taking a leadership role in building alliances with non-White groups are the American Jewish Committee, the Jewish Community Council of Greater Washington, and the Foundation for Ethnic Understanding. For example, the FFEU was cofounded by Rabbi Marc Schneier, president of the North American Boards of Rabbis; Russell Simmons of hip hop fame is the Chairman of the Board of Directors. The FFEU is closely tied to the World Jewish Congress, which cosponsors the Foundation’s Washington, DC office and several of its programs.

    These Jewish organizations have sought close relationships with Latino organizations such as the National Council of La Raza and the League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC). For example, one project of the FFEU is to organize an annual meeting of the NAACP, the National Council of La Raza, the World Jewish Congress, and the National Asian Pacific American Legal Consortium......”

    http://www.rense.com/general85/pedd.htm
    “2009. With another Jewish activist group, the Southern Poverty Law Center, ADL directed Missouri state police to consider white Christian conservatives, Ron Paul supporters, tax and immigration protestors, pro-lifers, etc., as possible domestic terrorists. ...”

    http://balder.org/judea/Hate-Speech-Laws-Immigration-Jewish-Influence-USA.php
    The Southern Poverty Lawcenter - SPLC

    “A millitant organization concerned with immigrant rights, anti-racism, monitoring 'right wing organizations' the usual lot.

    Founded in 1971 by Jewish lawyer Joe Levin and Morris Seligman Dees (not Jewish but born into a philosemitic family who gave him his Jewish first name after Joseph Seligman; president Lincoln's Jewish banker), currently headed by Julian Bond (black, communist sympathiser. Bond's father's first experience with racism in 1916 was with a Jew.. )

    Two of the center's most well known activists are Mark Potok and Heidi Beirich. (both Jewish) Alexander Zaitchik is a former SPLC operative who now continues doing the SPLC's work in another context.

    The SPLC has a long-standing reputation for manipulating statistics and exaggerating the extent of “racism” or “hate” in America. The group earns millions a year by making false claims about 'hate groups' and the dangers they pose to America.”

    *********

    http://www.fpp.co.uk/docs/CDR/Levitas2.html
    The Role Played by the ADL’s Violent Puppet Organisation, the Atlanta-based Center for Democratic Renewal (CDR), in suppressing Free Debate

    http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/acluheavywithjews.html
    ACLU TOP HEAVY WITH JEWS

    http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h1595.html
    “The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) was founded in 1909 in New York City by a group of bi-racial activists. Originally called the National Negro Committee, it is the nation's oldest civil rights organization. One often-overlooked aspect of the NAACP's history is that the Jewish community contributed hugely to the NAACP's founding and continued financing.”

    http://balder.org/judea/Hate-Speech-Laws-Immigration-Jewish-Influence-USA.php
    “The civil rights struggles and victories of the 1950s and 1960s were Jewish-led and Jewish-financed.....The NAACP's first president was Arthur Spingarn, and only Jews served as NAACP presidents from its founding until the 1970s. Joel Spingarn succeeded his brother, Arthur, and following him, Kivie Kaplan reigned over the organization. According to the Jewish historian Howard Sachar, Joel Spingarn recruited for its board such Jewish leaders as Jacob Schiff, Jacob Billikopf, Henry Moscowitz, and Rabbi Stephen Wise.....”
     
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    I think they did the right thing based on what this child did as simple assult is not enough. This was a hate crime clear and simple. He is clearly an out of control 12 year old that needs some serious correction before he kills someone. I only wish that they would return to horse whipping instead of jail time for this kind of thing. About 40 lashes stripping a large portion of his hide off would send a serious message.
    A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back.
    By the way I have no problem if they use the rod instead of the whip. Either will work.
     
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    Easy to say until this becomes one's own child or grandchild. And, don't say "that's impossible."
     
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    Why is this our fault, may I ask ?
     
  20. kyredneck

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    Please, name some more. This could become very revealing.
     
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