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Shariah Law Sweeping into USA Courts

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by freeatlast, Apr 11, 2011.

  1. freeatlast

    freeatlast New Member

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    The process of settlement is a "Civilization-Jihadist Process" with all the word means. The Ikhwan ("The Muslim Brotherhood") must understand that their work in America is a king of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and 'sabotaging' its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God's religion (Islam) is made victorious over all other religions.....
    " http://ignoble-experiment.blogspot.com/2011/04/shariah-law-sweeping-into-usa-courts.html
     
  2. InTheLight

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    From the article:

    There are already 19 specific Shariah Law cases in 12 states that are pending.

    There are 19 lawsuits that were filed in 12 states to assert Shariah Law into our U.S. Court system!

    Shariah Law is overtaking America... step-by-step.


    However, while making such claims the article does not list any lawsuits that have been filed to assert Sharia law into the U.S. court system.

    It does cite a case where a judge in New Jersey denied a Muslim woman from getting a restraining order against her Muslim husband ruling that when the husband forced his wife to have sex with him he was behaving according to his Muslim beliefs and did not have a criminal intent to harm his wife.

    However, the article fails to note that an appeals court overturned the ruling stating that the husband's religious beliefs were irrelevant and that the judge, in taking them into consideration, "was mistaken."

    So where are these lawsuits that have been filed to institute Sharia law and are "sweeping into US courts"?
     
  3. freeatlast

    freeatlast New Member

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    I can't speak for them, but it is a good question so it might be good to email them and ask. I do know that here in texas there is a bill working its way through the system to make it against the law for our courts to honor any law of any government or system other then texas or US laws. I read about it in the Chronicle a couple days ago.
    http://ballotnews.org/2011/04/01/fi...roposed-amendments-to-the-texas-constitution/
     
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  4. InTheLight

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    They had similar legislation in Oklahoma last fall. There is no reason to amend the constitution to say you will follow the constitution. It's pretty much a given that the constitution is the law of the land.
     
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    No that is not correct. Our courts are so corrupt that some judges will do what ever they want unless there is a direct wording forbidding the to do something. Many courst today make laws and this will stop them. The OK law was actually put on hold because of a Muslim who sought a restraining order last year. I am not sure of the outcome since then. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/11/0...-critics-say-attorney-general-failed-respond/
    Best I can find so far most of the court cases being considered under sharia law are of the domestic type. However if they get a foot hold they will go further. There needs to be a clear law stopping them and I am glad to support the Texas law.
     
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    Can you provide links to information about these court cases?
     
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    Yes but it is just as easy for you to do the research. Just google and thye will come up.
     
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    I was hoping you could save me some time. Oh well. Found these:

    Amin v. Bakhaty: Louisiana court refuses to enforce Egyptian child custody order.

    Shaheed Allah, Plaintiff, v. Adella Jordan-Luster, et al., Inmate demands Halal slaughtered meat in prison. The court found that the Plaintiff's faith was not hindered by the provision of a general prison diet rather than the Halal diet the Plaintiff sought.

    Aleem vs. Aleem: Maryland's Highest Court Refuses to Recognize Pakistani Shariah Divorce

    PEOPLE of the STATE of NEW YORK v. IBRAHIM BEN BENU:
    CRIMINAL COURT OF THE CITY OF NEW YORK, KINGS COUNTY - May 13, 1976
    Case of forced child marriage following Islam that was voided as against public policy.

    (1976? Really?)



    Rhodes v. ITT Sheraton Corp: Rejection of Saudi Arabia as an Alternate Forum for Resolving a Dispute

    Saida Banu Tarikonda v. Bade Saheb Pinjari: Lower court recognizes Shariah divorce law; appeals court overrules


     
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    Sorry just did have the time. Unless there is a clear laws on the books as these people get on the bench they will re-write our laws and we will be under their thumb.
     
  10. billwald

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    >Sorry just did have the time. Unless there is a clear laws on the books as these people get on the bench they will re-write our laws and we will be under their thumb.

    Complaining about how the US Constitution was designed to operate?

    In non-criminal matters Sharia law courts operate like "Judge Judy" courts - actually binding arbitration to which both parties miust agree.
     
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    Hello Bill where you been. The issue is not how they opperate, but that they operate at all under our current laws. They want to add their laws to ours and force everyone to abide by their standards. That canot happen.
     
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    If they are so insidious and so effective and rewriting laws, why wouldn't they simply rewrite the clear law on the books prohibiting Sharia law?

    In other words, by your own admission, passing a law is impotent to stop them.
     
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    So far I have missed where Muslims expect everyone to abide by their laws. It seems that they want to use their laws for themselves in the US system. Wrong as that might be, it is not the same as forcing their rules on everyone.

    This is a common desire of most religions. There are many Christians who expect the court system to adopt Christian standards as legal requirements for everyone, Christian or not.
     
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    That may be fine for Canada which is catering to the Muslims, but here it is not. The Muslims certainly do want the courts to follow their law, but to do that everyone at some point is effected. The proposed law is a wise move as it limits a religion that is radical and militant at its roots and because of the corruption in our courts stops anyone who follows their agenda from changing the law to fit their agenda.
     
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    At this point they do not have the power. However using the corrupt courts system they can do it behind the back of legislators so this law is a good law as it makes that impossible.
     
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    >The issue is not how they opperate, but that they operate at all under our current laws.

    Two people have a dispute and agree that a 3rd party will be a binding arbitrator. What does that have to do with our current laws?
     
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    This is about court cases.
     
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    The big danger is Congress ratifying a treaty wit the UN or a Moslem country.
     
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    Bill you are correct about that being a danger an it is on the horizon as the people continue to turn their heads and give up their freedoms and rights to our ever growing corrupt government.
     
  20. InTheLight

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    OK, I might as well ask--what freedoms have people given up due to a corrupt government?

    List three, please.
     
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