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Report: 75 Percent of TNIV Gender-Related Problems in Updated NIV Bible

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by mandym, May 11, 2011.

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  1. mandym

    mandym New Member

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    A new report by a leading critic of the TNIV finds that 75 percent of gender-related problems in the now-defunct version are retained in the updated NIV Bible.

    The Committee on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood this week published a full critical evaluation of the new NIV Bible, concluding that the latest translation "cannot be considered sufficiently trustworthy in its translation of gender language." The findings were consistent with the group's November statement that refused to commend the 2011 NIV (actually copyrighted 2010) due to "gender-related" language problems it previously identified in the TNIV.



    http://www.christianpost.com/news/r...-related-problems-in-updated-niv-bible-50191/
     
    #1 mandym, May 11, 2011
  2. Deacon

    Deacon Well-Known Member
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    From the article:

    The NIV (2011) translation is also found in the AV, ASV, Darby, NASB, NKJV, TNIV, NLT
    By the way the verse was divided in the 1500’s, it was a historic translation.

    Personally the report by the Committee on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood is a political move. They've marginalized themselves.

    Rob
     
    #2 Deacon, May 12, 2011
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    Jerome Well-Known Member
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    Ooops John Calvin didn't get the memo either. [In his Commentary he notes that the phrase refers to what comes before it.]

    Of course, he was probably a radical feminist with an agenda, though. LOL.

    Why is SBTS still hosting this outfit?
     
    #3 Jerome, May 12, 2011
  4. jaigner

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    This is all complete lunacy. Neither of these translations (I'm partial to the TNIV) are anything other than gender-accurate. When the Bible means men and women, it says so. When the Bible means men, it says that, too.

    Weirdness.
     
    #4 jaigner, May 12, 2011
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    go2church Active Member
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    What a bunch on nonsense! The Council on..... at this point look really, really silly. They keep pointing out these "additions" or "modifications" in these translations and yet nobody seems to care because most of the new translations coming out are following the gender accurate form.

    At this point they look like a bunch of old men (it could only be men) trying to keep women from voting or going to school, they are completely out of touch on this issue.
     
    #5 go2church, May 12, 2011
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    It's a very pathetic, silly organization.
     
    #6 jaigner, May 12, 2011
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    I just landed on Ameerican soil last Friday. Then,May 7th I bought my 2011 slimline large-print NIV at a local Christian bookstore. I am happy with it.

    Today,just as I entered a Reformed Christian bookstore I heard the clerk tell a female customer some nonsense about the 2011 NIV. I didn't initiate the conversation. I was minding my own business. He told her:"We don't sell the new NIV because of its gender problems. We stick with the ESV especially and the NASBU and so-forth."

    That kind of misinformation is going to be so prevalent. But dispite the negative hype, the 2011 will retain its popularity. That is,as long as there will not be the boycotts that went on with respect to the TNIV.
     
    #7 Rippon, May 12, 2011
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    Why all the androphobia?

     
    #8 jonathan.borland, May 12, 2011
  9. jonathan.borland

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    Why emasculate the Bible just to make it more politically correct?

     
    #9 jonathan.borland, May 12, 2011
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    This is grammatically odd to say the least. For the sake of consistency, shouldn't it read, "Blessed are they whose . . ."?
     
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    This is also grammatically odd. So according to the verse, is it one person, is it a group, or is it both?
     
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    The last sentence is rather humorous.

     
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    I guess "Don't throw like a girl!" is out, too?

     
    #13 jonathan.borland, May 12, 2011
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    The following really is the crux of the matter:

     
    #14 jonathan.borland, May 12, 2011
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    But isn't "father's house" in 1 Samuel 18:2 an idiom? And isn't "all women" in Nahum 3:13 a metaphor? Must they be translated 'literally'?
     
    #15 franklinmonroe, May 12, 2011
  16. jonathan.borland

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    It's not an understandability issue. It's about excluding details for no other reason than that they seem offensive to contemporary culture. But certainly you see that the metaphor of Nahum 3:13 is totally removed in the NIV (2011). But why? The answer is obvious to most honest observers.
     
    #16 jonathan.borland, May 13, 2011
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    Hogwash. The NIV is not gender-neutral.
     
    #17 go2church, May 13, 2011
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    These arguments are as ridiculous as the KJV only proponents
     
    #18 go2church, May 13, 2011
  19. jonathan.borland

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    It's rather you who fits the pejorative KJVO bill more similarly I should say.
     
    #19 jonathan.borland, May 13, 2011
  20. David Lamb

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    Just like the example given by Martin Marprelate in another thread here.
     
    #20 David Lamb, May 13, 2011
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