1. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

How Do YOU Interprete" God was in Christ reconciling World to Himself"

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by JesusFan, Jul 27, 2011.

  1. JesusFan

    JesusFan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2011
    Messages:
    8,913
    Likes Received:
    240
    that he forgave original Sin of Adam, no longer applying that to us, that we all have a level playing field, no longer dead in our sins, or what?

    HIOW do you see this in relation to salvation?
     
  2. Iconoclast

    Iconoclast Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2010
    Messages:
    21,242
    Likes Received:
    2,305
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    This verse teaches that God has elect people all over the world.

    He has reconciled them In Christ. The gospel goes world wide to reach these elect persons who are scattered...

    How do we know it is speaking of elect sheep?

    Simple because the ungodly at the white throne judgement are cast into hell showing that they were never reconciled to God.

    Jesus will say....depart from me...I NEVER KNEW YOU.

     
  3. Tom Butler

    Tom Butler New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2005
    Messages:
    9,031
    Likes Received:
    2
    First, we have to define "world." It seems obvious that it cannot mean every person without exception. II Cor 5:19 refers to a group called "the world." This same "world" is the number of people to whom God will not impute their sins. These are the same people to whom God was in Christ reconciling himself.

    If "world" is everybody, then God is not imputing anybody's trespasses to them, and everybody is saved.

    So, "world" is not everybody, and God is not imputing trespasses to those with whom he is reconciled in Christ Jesus.

    So our ministry of reconciliation is to join with Paul in beseeching all who will listen, on Christ's behalf, to be reconciled to God.
     
  4. Skandelon

    Skandelon <b>Moderator</b>

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2003
    Messages:
    9,638
    Likes Received:
    1
    2 Peter 2:1 teaches, " But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, and will bring swift destruction on themselves."

    Romans 5:18: So then, as through one trespass there is condemnation for everyone, so also through one righteous act there is life-giving justification for everyone.

    The atonement of Christ is universal (meant to be genuinely offered to all men through the gospel appeal) but provisional (with a provision by which the recipient must repent and believe in order to receive its benefit).

    The example of the snake lifted on the pole is a perfect example. It was provide for all Israel, but only was effective if the person looked to the snake for healing.
     
  5. AresMan

    AresMan Active Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2005
    Messages:
    1,717
    Likes Received:
    11
    Faith:
    Baptist
    This verse is not saying that these false prophets were purchased with the blood of Christ.

    Master = δεσποτην ("despot" or sovereign ruler)
    bought = αγορασαντα ("bought" as from a slave market)


    The context is that of analogy to Jews of old who were denying the sovereign God (Father) who bought them out of Egypt.

    Exo 15:16 Fear and dread shall fall upon them; by the greatness of thine arm they shall be as still as a stone; till thy people pass over, O LORD, till the people pass over, which thou hast purchased.

    Deu 32:6 Do ye thus requite the LORD, O foolish people and unwise? is not he thy father that hath bought thee? hath he not made thee, and established thee?
     
  6. JesusFan

    JesusFan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2011
    Messages:
    8,913
    Likes Received:
    240
    haven't you though posted at times that god "leveled the playing field" when he reconciled World to Himself in Christ on the Cross...

    What did you mean by that?
     
Loading...