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Texas; No more last meal choices for death-row inmates

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by freeatlast, Sep 22, 2011.

  1. freeatlast

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    Read the article.
     
  4. Robert Snow

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    I guess giving a dying man a special request for their last meal must really bother you. Your brand of Christianity is very strict and rigid. That is understandable, but you seem to get enjoyment in the misery of others. Very disturbing.
     
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    Without Reading the Article, I Would....

    .....Have to agree for a thumb's up. It is food that is truly wasted on a person who will be gone in an hour or two.....That, and the cost of not having to house that person in prison any longer, is a saving to the taxpayer.

    If California would get over their bleeding-heart liberal stand (in which executions are on hold because it may cause them unusual pain and suffering for the criminal) we could begin paying down our debt. It costs us billions of dollars a year to house an ever aging population of 660 men and 16 women on death row. Besides, those convicted killers didn't think about the pain and suffering they caused on their victim before ending their life, and the everlasting emotional pain on the loved ones of those murdered!

    It is time to be rid of death sentences and send these folks back to general population, or restart the execution process and stop raising taxes to house these convicted killers indefinitely on death row.

    Whether you agree with executing the murders, or not, you must agree that to house these aging criminals at billions each year is a serious waste of hard-working taxpayer's money!

    Shalom,

    Pastor Paul :type:
     
  6. Robert Snow

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    What does any of this have to do with the condemned prisoner getting a favored last meal?
     
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    I agree. I'm not sure what Freeatlast's issue is, but he seems to be obsessed with the death penalty. The mind of an extreme fundy is a scary place.
     
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    Yep, I'm sure the condemned man made sure that his victim was able to request a last meal, the opportunity to visit with family, and a painless concoction of drugs administered by a health care professional.
     
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    Giving a last meal of choice is a tiny bit of undeserved grace. I am against taking that away. The connection to the mind with food is pretty intense and that small act of kindness should remain, in my opinion.
    In a way, things like this are what keep us in check and separate us from animals. That small act of compassion speaks volumes about grace. As difficult as it may be, I think we as humans should make an effort to retain as much compassion and grace as possible when carrying out the death penalty to keep us from switching over to the depraved type of mindset the criminal possessed when he/she did such a horrible thing.

    Calling it a money issue seems illogical. If that's the concern, stop with the years and years spent waiting on the penalty to be carried out. I never understood why the majority spend over ten years, with others spending more than twenty. There should be a more reasonable time frame.
     
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    If you are so compassionate then you should have to foot the bill, not the rest of us. You are claiming to be the compassionate one correct? :laugh:
     
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    I guess it's not enough that Texas put in an express lane for the death penalty, now they remove one last moment of dignity before removing someone's life from them.

    Ironically to get decision made it will like cost more than meals themselves. What a sad people we are becoming.
     
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    Once again, what about the victims? Where is their dignity? Who will speak for them? A murderer goes to death row and suddenly everyone forgets what he or she has done. The victim(s) are forgotten. The focus is overwhelmingly on the rights, the comfort, the last meal of the the murderer... People stand outside and sanctimoniously protest against the death penalty while seeming to callously ignore the victim's family. Who protests for them? The family who lost their loved one are victims and yet the focus is on a lousy last meal for a death row inmate. Please!!!
     
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    I think all you liberals who want the accused to have a last meal of choice should petition the prison system to pay for them out of your own pockets. :applause:
     
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    Where is the money coming from now and how does it get there?

    Sheesh. Our taxes fund free abortions for medicaid recipients and you're concerned over the money spent on the last meal of a death row inmate? One word for you: PRIORITIZE!
     
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    I am against the death penalty, but I also don't think we should be catering to their last wishes.

    I've posted this before and I think it is relevant to this discussion. My ideal "jail" is a large plot of land with a high fence around it and a tower at each corner. Each tower would have a couple of guys with sniper rifles. Within the fence would be a bunch of holes that are roughly 10 feet deep large enough for a man to lay down. Once a day we throw bread and water into the holes. If anyone comes out of a hole they get shot. We'd have a lot less crime if jails were like this.
     
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    Yes I am concered as this is a start. That is how to PRIORITIZE! So like I said put your own money where your mouth is and pay for the last meal requests out of your own pocket IF you are so concerned so that the family who lost a loved one to these murderers do not have to help pay for their lavish last meals. Sheesh.
     
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    We all should pay for it out of tax money.
     
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    They're already helping pay for the cost of caring for them while in prison for ridiculous amounts of time until the sentence is carried out. Wouldn't a higher priority be to end having people on death row for 10, 15, 20 years and more?

    If you're so concerned for the families, you'd be more concerned with that aspect of it, right? That costs a lot more than a last meal. A whole lot more, let alone having to wait so very long for justice to be served on behalf of the loved one they lost.

    You honestly believe stopping a death row inmate from being able to choose ONE meal, one last meal, is the priority here? Seriously? Truly? You 100% believe this is the priority, the one thing that would most help these inmates?

    I'm sorry, but I'm having a very tough time believing that. Maybe it is for you. Please explain why. Why that's more important than the other things and how it helps everyone all around more than anything else.
     
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    I agree that the long times between sentencing and carrying it out needs to be changed. There should be a 1 year max limit on appeals and then execute the sentence unless over turned.
    The condemned never got any special treatment from the Lord. He said take them and stone them. They should not get some special meal to die on. Like I said how about you paying for these meals if you are so compassionate?
     
  20. matt wade

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    Prioritizing things doesn't always mean that the most important things get done first. Taking care of "low hanging fruit" (such as these last meals) can be done quicker and easier and so get prioritized ahead of more important items.
     
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