1. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

how young girls are lured into prostitution

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Nazaroo, Oct 20, 2011.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Nazaroo

    Nazaroo New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2007
    Messages:
    417
    Likes Received:
    0
    How young girls are lured into prostitution


    Young people today are brainwashed and exploited to such a degree that their programmed core values are so distant from those of their own parents as to make them complete strangers. It is a dangerous development has created a toxic environment for both children and parents.

    One of the ways this is achieved is through a constant substitution of meaning for common words. It results in statements and sentences that sound the same, but have entirely different meanings between generations.

    A powerful case of word-meaning substitution is the word "love". From the early Reformation until the 1930's, the word "love" had a predominantly Christian meaning, elevating it spiritually, and encompassing in it Christian concepts of charity, generosity, compassion, and self-sacrifice.

    These built-in ideals contributed to everyone's world-view in powerful ways that influenced how people connected to community, how they held themselves responsible for the poor, the misfortunate, the sick and elderly, and how they understood their roles in marriage and parenting. The Christian ethos and values permeated society so deeply that children easily assimilated commitment to honoring parents, and even basic manners.

    Now such ideas are all but eroded, and even unknown to those growing up in a culture saturated by sex and consumption, selfishness and greed, glamour and fashion. "love" is virtually equated to sexual gratification. and Christian "love" appears to young people as a strange and irrelevant philosophy.

    The methods of those who exploit children and profit from them have become so powerful and sophisticated, that parents are virtually unarmed and helpless to protect their children from the onslaught.

    In such an emergency-situation, it is important to examine how the methods were developed, by studying simpler and earlier cases.


    One such case is the "children of God" cult in the USA. In this cult, which posed falsely as a "Christian" group, young girls were lured away from parents, taught to exploit their own sexuality to bring in more cult-members (males) who would be in turn exploited in other ways, such as being tricked or blackmailed out of money.

    Why were young girls so easy to exploit? How did this group use Christian symbols and words, and subtly alter their meanings to overwhelm those young minds?

    A careful examination of the type of teaching and propaganda that the "Children of God" used, and how it has been improved and polished by later groups is very instructive, both as to how they did it and how it can be combated.

    The following images and text have been taken from a Swiss group which further exploited the original work of the "Children of God" cult.



    What can be observed in operation here is a very friendly sounding FALSE GOSPEL,
    in which the meaning of important authentic Christian ideas have been altered and distorted.
    In this case, the original "Epistle" written by the cult leader,
    has been further exploited to attract male suckers for monetary exploitation,
    and distortion of fundamental ethical values.

    Hard-hitting and accurate analysis of this poison,
    and clarification of true Christian values,
    presented in a clear and simple way,
    are what is needed to prevent the further destruction of community,
    and exploitation of the naive for profit.



    Images removed
     
    #1 Nazaroo, Oct 20, 2011
    Last edited by a moderator: Oct 20, 2011
  2. Nazaroo

    Nazaroo New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2007
    Messages:
    417
    Likes Received:
    0
    Though censored these images are too graphic for a family Christian forum.
     
    #2 Nazaroo, Oct 20, 2011
    Last edited by a moderator: Oct 20, 2011
  3. Pastor_Bob

    Pastor_Bob Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2002
    Messages:
    3,960
    Likes Received:
    228
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Agreed. Thank you C4K.
     
  4. Nazaroo

    Nazaroo New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2007
    Messages:
    417
    Likes Received:
    0
    too bad.

    Now parents remain in the dark,
    and no tools can be developed to adequately combat
    the recruitment of young teen girls behind their backs.

    I lament that naive Christians are their own worst enemies.
     
  5. billwald

    billwald New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2000
    Messages:
    11,414
    Likes Received:
    2
    To graphic? Put all the women in burkas. It would save us big bucks.
     
  6. Pastor_Bob

    Pastor_Bob Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2002
    Messages:
    3,960
    Likes Received:
    228
    Faith:
    Baptist
    There are plenty of tools. Simply provide a link; you need not post graphic pictures.

    I lament that immature Christians have no sense of propriety.
     
  7. Tom Bryant

    Tom Bryant Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2006
    Messages:
    4,521
    Likes Received:
    43
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Thanks for doing that, Dr. Bob!
     
  8. Nazaroo

    Nazaroo New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2007
    Messages:
    417
    Likes Received:
    0
    In particular, I'd like to focus on the technique the predator has used in the OP example above.

    Look at some of the power-techniques: There are so many, and together they are almost overwhelming to a young mind. Every objection and question has already been answered and removed:

    (1) The use of flattery, through identification of the whoring acts with Jesus, 'Godly action' and therefore the whole enterprise being justified:
    "you're like the Lord..." (p. 2) "If they fall in love with you first before they find out its the Lord...", the girl is "irresistable", (p. 3)

    Well, its not "the Lord", but rather a naive teen being used to lure suckers into a prostitution/exploitation ring. She is only 'irresistable' to a fool who can't keep his sexual organ in his pants.

    (2) Substitution of Meaning: "in love with you" (p. 3) (as opposed to what is really going on, i.e., sexual stimulation, infatuation, lust, and enticement to sex.)

    (3) Use of 'religious' language ("thy", "thee", "thou", vocative address to "God") (p.3 etc.) "these three become one" (p. 5) to give bogus authority and religiosity to the lies.

    (4) Encouragement of magical thinking and fantasizing to help remove natural fear of wrongdoing and to help rationalize away sin:
    "In the early morning hours came the following prophecy: ..." (p. 2) What is described is however, not prophecy at all, but fantasizing. The kind of 'hearing voices' etc. that Pentecostals regularly engage in, which again grants false legitimacy to the speech.

    (5) Affirmation of 'Empowerment' fantasy, in which it is pretended that the exploited teen girl is really "in control" and has secret knowledge of the situation, making her believe she is superior to the other exploited victim. "but they don't know it!" (p.2)

    (6) Suggestion of alternate interpretations of emotional experience. Romanticizing, portraying the girl as a 'hero'... "unashamed", "brazen" (p. 4)

    (7) Inclusive language, suggesting participation in 'will of God' etc. "we don't want to lose - not one, Lord!" Obvious attempted grouping with God and His will.

    (8) Appeal to Ego, and self-image, esteem-building speech: "you've got something they've been searching for all their lives" (p 2) "each of them seek after her, dream of her, drink of her!" (p 4)

    (9) Description of act as heroic, charitable, self-less, honorable: "unselfish love" (p.2) , "thy love and mercy" (p. 3) "through thy death to thyself" (p.4)

    (10) Description of misgivings as a sin: "You must not let self and pride enter in" (p 2)

    (11) Encouragement to abandon misgivings or inhibitions, and especially to ignore good advice from the men being lured: "so interested in them that you don't care what they think about you." (p. 2) she is "to use anything she has..." (p.4) "yield thyself!" (p. 6)

    (12) Comparison to and Equated with Apostles - "I will make you fishers of men" (p. 8).

    (13) Promise of Divine Protection: "but he cannot consume thee" (p. 5) "they shall not hurt thee", "I shall save thy soul from destruction" (p.6) "Thou shalt escape, I promise thee!" (p. 7)

    (14) Demand for Complete Devotion: "Would you do anything for Jesus?" (p. 8)

    (15) Claim of Complete Power: "Only I, the fisherman can remove the hook", "Neither shall he remove it forever!" (p. 5) "I shall catch them all!" (p.7)

    (16) Equating trickery and prostitution with the Cross of Christ: "to suffer the crucifixion of the hook"

    (17) Making trickery and whoring a universally acceptable action: "May God help us all to be flirty little fishes for Jesus", "be sure you use the right bait for the right fish!" (p. 8)

    (18) Assigning God's Authority to Leader: "David is My Master Fisherman" (p. 7) "David your father" (p. 2)

    (19) Speaking in the Name of God: "the words that I have given to David your father", (p. 2) "I shall open his jaws" (p. 5)

    (20) Switching in and out of God's voice and the Leader's voice: "not one, Lord!", (p.3) "anything she has, O God..." "My kiss of life" (p.4) "My love" "the hook of My Spirit" (p. 5)

    (21) Switching grammatical 'person' of leader's voice: "David will never leave thee" [David speaking!] (p. 7) This adds to the blurring and confusion of God with Leader.

    (22) Application of 'guilt' to possible shortcomings: "Are you skillfully, patiently fishing for men?" (p.8)

    (23) Repeated request to carry out task: "are you willing?" (p. 8 etc. repeatedly)

    (24) Granting Superpowers to Requested Action: "a lost soul that we don't want to lose" (p. 3) "to catch men for God", "to kiss many with My kiss of Life", "Thou shalt bring life to many" (p.4) "he is safely within My net" (p.5) "catch many for My kingdom" (p. 6)

    (25) Divine Promises: "I shall give thee light" (p. 6)

    (26) Heartbreak as a Consequence Disallowed: "Why shedest thou these tears before Me?" (p.7)

    (27) Absurd Promises: "The bait and the fish become one flesh, both on the hook of My Spirit" (p. 5) Here the whoring is given Divine sanction, marriage status, and an eternal value by the leader encouraging the whoring.

    Its surprising just how many different techniques and angles have been worked into this short but powerfully contrived brainwashing pamphlet.
     
  9. Nazaroo

    Nazaroo New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2007
    Messages:
    417
    Likes Received:
    0
    The Link is at the top of the Original Post.
    Those who wish to read the text of the brainwashing pamphlet can do so by clicking the link.
     
  10. Nazaroo

    Nazaroo New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2007
    Messages:
    417
    Likes Received:
    0
    There is no sense of propriety possible in an all out war.

    For instance,
    Isaiah wandered naked for three years, because of Israel's sin,
    and Ezekiel was commanded to eat excrement.

    Anyone who has been on a battlefield knows two things:

    (1) The Truth is often ugly.

    (2) All decorum, planning, organization, and control go out the window when the battle starts.

    (3) Decorum and propriety are worthless incomparison to sustained, vigorous and effective warfare against a real enemy.


    One of the main reasons that so many pastors are uncomfortable with a careful examination of the methods of cults,
    is that many Christian churches, organizations, and groups also use the same fraudulent methods.
     
  11. billwald

    billwald New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2000
    Messages:
    11,414
    Likes Received:
    2
    It would be interesting to know how many of the mothers of these young girls had been talked out of having an abortion by a well meaning Christian.
     
  12. matt wade

    matt wade Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2009
    Messages:
    6,156
    Likes Received:
    78
    Do you feel it would have been better for the girls to have been aborted billwald?
     
  13. Pastor_Bob

    Pastor_Bob Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2002
    Messages:
    3,960
    Likes Received:
    228
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Be that as it may, today we have the entire revelation of God's Word. Jesus taught His disciples to be "wise as serpents and harmless as doves."
     
  14. Nazaroo

    Nazaroo New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2007
    Messages:
    417
    Likes Received:
    0
    ...and the ENTIRE revelation of God's Word would include also:

    "I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions" (Luke 10:19)

    So we're not ALWAYS to be 'harmless',
    when it comes to the enemies of God.

    For example, a police officer will often shoot a hostage-taker in the face,
    to save a child. And Christians will applaud the decision.
     
  15. NaasPreacher (C4K)

    NaasPreacher (C4K) Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2003
    Messages:
    26,806
    Likes Received:
    80
    I made the decision. I reported it to the moderators first, but was so offended that I decided to act in an administrative role. Keeping that kind of rubbish off of a Christian family board is not naive, it is wise. Those sketchings appealed to the prurient side of man. We never need to use wickedness to deal with sin. We don't need to open a pornographic magazine to say 'Oh, look how bad this is!'

    If anyone wants to see that junk they can find it themselves.
     
  16. Scarlett O.

    Scarlett O. Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    May 22, 2002
    Messages:
    11,384
    Likes Received:
    944
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I did not see the images, so I cannot have an opinion of them. But I can say that while the above stories from the Bible can and should be used in Sunday School, any other intellectually honest forum, discussed for their implications and revelations, and not avoided in anyway ....

    ..... we do not need an illustrated Bible with pictures of a naked Isaiah to understand the crux of the matter.
     
  17. Scarlett O.

    Scarlett O. Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    May 22, 2002
    Messages:
    11,384
    Likes Received:
    944
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I would appreciate an explanation of what you mean. I get the impression that you are saying that when a woman is pregnant, that she should abort because there is potential harm one day to her child.

    Your logic is .... not logical.

    If I am wrong, please correct me.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
Loading...