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did God Determine To save Those Who Come To Christ, or Those who come to Christ?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by JesusFan, Dec 21, 2011.

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  1. JesusFan

    JesusFan Well-Known Member

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    One being the will/act of man , other act/will of God!
     
    #1 JesusFan, Dec 21, 2011
  2. plain_n_simple

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    What is your answer?
     
    #2 plain_n_simple, Dec 21, 2011
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    forget the answer, try re-writing the question first.
     
    #3 12strings, Dec 21, 2011
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  5. preacher4truth

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    I understand your question, I'm certain others do as well, but no pejorative attitude here.

    God determined those who come to Christ, then to save them. So the latter part of your question reflects the truth in the best way.

    - Peace
     
    #5 preacher4truth, Dec 21, 2011
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    God choses us for Salvation. The only act of man is to submit to God
    MB
     
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    So, you are asking Did God determine to save Those Who Come To Christ or
    Did God Determine To save Those who come to Christ?

    The only difference is the capitalization of your words.

    Did Jesus fan determine to write his one millionth post(12 topic) or did Jesus fan determine to write his one millionth post?

    Did I decide to buy and ipad2 or did I decide to buy an ipad 2?

    ;):tongue3:
     
    #7 jbh28, Dec 21, 2011
  8. Alive in Christ

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    I dont get it.

    I dont get it.

    He is saying the same thing twice.

    He is saying the same thing twice :(
     
    #8 Alive in Christ, Dec 21, 2011
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    Did you mean to write the same statement twice or did you mean to write the same statement twice?
     
    #9 jbh28, Dec 21, 2011
  10. convicted1

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    Oh boy, here we go again......
     
    #10 convicted1, Dec 21, 2011
  11. quantumfaith

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    The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance
     
    #11 quantumfaith, Dec 21, 2011
  12. jbh28

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    It's been a while since we've discussed this topic...oh wait, never mind. :)
     
    #12 jbh28, Dec 21, 2011
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    It is our destiny.
     
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  14. preacher4truth

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    Oh boy here we go again again...

    :laugh:
     
    #14 preacher4truth, Dec 21, 2011
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    Don't you wondered what kind of people would be drawn to those who were convinced God didn't love the world as those who convinced it is everyone that He sent His Son?

    Did God hate Esau and loved Jacob that He denied one salvation or because salvation is comming to the world through the one He loved?

    Acts 4:12
    Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.”
     
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    My sentiments exactly! Apparently JesusFan is too clever ar Semantics for "usens" to understand!
     
    #16 OldRegular, Dec 21, 2011
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    Appologies: JesusFan, My comment was unnecesary and mean. I appologize. I can't edit/remove it anymore, so I'm sorry.
     
    #17 12strings, Dec 21, 2011
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    :applause::applause::applause:
     
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    It is neither yet both.
     
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  20. JesusFan

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    Not really, as there is 2 distinct differences here!

    Did God chose to save those after they placed faith in Christ, or did He chose them to get saved before they placed faith in Christ?
     
    #20 JesusFan, Dec 21, 2011
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