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Career Advice

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by evangelist6589, Dec 26, 2011.

  1. evangelist6589

    evangelist6589 Well-Known Member
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    Reading some authors they write that a career should be what I am passionate about. The self-help career authors do have good advice but the underlining premise appears to be self fulfillment. However MacArthur, Stanley and others say that God does not guarantee that. I am to follow him and He may or may not bless me with such a career that I love and am passionate about. What do you say?
     
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    I think it's only been in recent years that we worry about passion and work. With my parent's peers, they were happy to even have a job and they usually worked the same job for 20/30/40 years. Passion had nothing to do with it. They didn't find their satisfaction at work - they found it at home with their family.

    Yes, it's nice to have a job that we love and are passionate about but if we all look for that, we'd have a very dissatisfied bunch out of work and many MANY jobs that needed filling.
     
  3. JesusFan

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    Think that while there would be a job that fulfills you in that enables you to use your God given talents/gifts in best fashion, that ANY job can be used to glorify God, as we take Him with us into wherever He places us at!

    Sure that paul did not 'enjoy" tent making, but was a means to a way to provide monies forr him to be able to get to the ultimate 'job" of preaching Christ!

    Same way, we just might have to go thru what we would not consider our "best fit", but God still uses us there, provdes for us, and gets us to His ultimate "job!"
     
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    What MacArthur is saying is true. If we follow Him we may not end up in a career that is of our choosing however I have never heard of anyone who followed Him and ended up in some other type of work and say they wished God had chosen them another career.
    Matt 6:33
    But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
     
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    Good point. :thumbsup:
     
  6. evangelist6589

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    Excellent responses

    I appreciate the responses. I have not thrown out 48 Days to the work you, No More Mondays, or What Color is your Parachute as they are quite good in some areas. However the bottom line premise seems to be about "self-fulfillment."

    In a Erwin Lutzer book, and in MacArthur & Stanley sermons they do not preach "self-fulfillment" at work, but Godly responsibility.
     
  7. glfredrick

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    What you are asking, in a sense, is whether or not "work" is work. I have always found that it is, and in this sin-cursed world God promises (Gen 3) that our work will be by the sweat of our brow.

    I am currently in a job that I really dislike in order to be in a ministry that I love. I find very little fulfillment in my job except a paycheck. It robs me of energy, emotional strength, and hours in a day. The one perk is being able to influence some of the people and students where I work, but that goes into my ministry and is not a direct by-product of my work, save that my work is surrounded by these people (I manage a school building).

    Of note is the fact that ministry is also work. Anyone who thinks otherwise has never actually done the work of a minister, or perhaps has never done it well. Anyone can stand in front of a church group and spout off about personal beliefs, nuggets they have found in the Bible (whether doctrinally sound or not) and make preachy comments about the people in the church or the daily news. That, however, is not the work of ministry. Rightly dividing the Word of truth, getting messy with the sheep who constantly have problems with straying, getting sick, lack spiritual discipline, and then adding ministry to the lost on top of that is difficult, but OH SO REWARDING labor.

    Personal study drives the minister. That means going through volumes of written work with a Bible (or Bible software program) open alongside that work so as to examine in a Berean sense what is being said. Analyzing the text in the original languages, diagramming the grammatical content and context of those pericope, and then drawing sound inferences for the preparation of the sermon is real work, and work that I seldom find pastors doing once they are established in their congregations. I'm often shocked to have conversations with other pastors where I ask, "What are you reading right now?" They rarely have an answer except the old pat Sunday school answer, "The Bible." Not that there is anything wrong with study of the Bible, by all means not! But what else are you reading, Mr. Pastor, in order to build up your knowledge, to deal with theological issues that are everyday issues in the lives of your flock, or to learn how best to approach the task of evangelizing the lost in your community?

    So, can the work be rewarding, something that drives us forward with great passion and exuberance? Absolutely, but at the same time, work is work and it will always be work.
     
  8. Scarlett O.

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    What do I say?

    I say you need to decide what "passionate about your job" means.

    I'm passionate about my job, but to me that means that I love getting the desired results from it - seeing a child learn and grow. I LIVE for the moments when a student says, "Oh, I get it now" or "You know, I never thought of it that way before". Watching a student go from a D average to a B average is thrilling!

    My passion does NOT include the grunt work involved. I hate grading papers, cleaning my classroom, faculty meetings, inservices with over-paid guest speakers telling me how to do my job when they, themselves, have never done it, the mountains of paperwork that constantly takes away from my weekends and weeknights, and the occasional student/parent/and-or colleague who is a pain in the rear.

    But despite those things that drive me crazy - I'm still passionate about what I do.

    Maybe you need to decide what passion means to you.
     
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    Great point. I need to spend more time reading and doing research in my job hunt.

     
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    kind of like when i was single, kept praying to God "Lord, why do you bring my wife to be to me now?"

    Friend of mine said" Why not pray to the Lord to have Him make you a type of Christian man that she would want to get married to instead!"

    We need to get passionate about Christ, our walk with Him, and then he can guide us to do the job, even IF its the ione that we think is bewst, its more important what he knows is for the best!

    IF we find our worth/fulfillment etc in Him and our relationship, than the job will fall into place!
     
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