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When Ron Paul looses

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Salty, Dec 31, 2011.

  1. Salty

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    If Ron Paul comes in 2nd, 3rd, or 4th place next Tuesday, what will our RP supporters have to say?

    It would be interesting to hear your comments now.

    Any comments after 6PM Cent Time should be reserved for if RP does not win the NH primary.

    So folks - would love to have an "advance answer"
     
  2. Salty

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    Last poll I saw "Santorum elbows out Paul for second." which now pushes Paul down to third!

    Speak now RP supporters - excuses after the caucus is over don't count
     
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    Uh, no. The poll has Paul at 22 percent, Santorum at 15. From your link...

    "In four days of polling, Romney leads at 24 percent, Paul has 22 percent and Rick Santorum, 15 percent."
     
  4. Salty

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    Yes, it does say that - but did you go to the 5th paragraph?
     
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    No one has any expectation of Ron Paul winning. His strong showing scared the socialists and they switched their propaganda machines into high gear. He is the only one actually getting to the heart of issues. In a politically correct atmosphere nearly 50 years in the making, no one who speaks the truth escapes the wolves.

    It's obvious the Democrats run the Republican Party.
     
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    But IF by some miracle Ron Paul does win, what will YOU say?
     
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    Yeah; but you can put a parentheses around any poll to get results that you want..
     
  8. Salty

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    I will say, what I said before - that is was independents and Dems who voted in the REPUBLICAN caucus.

    This is the reason I am against open primiaries.

    The Party should be allowed to choose its on candidate.

    What parenthese?

    and I am still waiting for an answer to the OP
     
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    What kind of answer are you looking for ?
     
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    The poll showed that Santorum was still far behind Paul. So they broke out a section of voters that had a higher percentage of Santorum backers. You can do that with ANY poll to get higher results for the person you want.

    What will I have to say? That the establishment people got there way, and our country is doomed. NONE of the people except Ron Paul will do something about getting rid of the NDAA, in order to restore the Bill of Rights. NONE of the others are going to do anything about SOPA, that will essentially silence all secondary news sources. NONE of the other nominees will do anything that will actually balance our budget, so when the dollar eventually loses its status as the World Reserve currency, you and I will be living in the streets.

    So I guess eventually I will be digging in a dumpster somewhere with my kids, if the government does not realize I have more than 3 months food supply stored up, and arrest me as a "suspected terrorist" before then...
     
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    America loses.

    Either the creeping Socialism of the left will gain ground, or the military industrial complex of the right that Eisenhower warned of will gain ground. America loses either way.

    This is Ron Paul's last go around.
     
  12. Salty

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    So if Paul does not get the Rep or Libertarian nod, when will the USA cease to be a Constitutional Republic?
     
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    I'm no prophet. How would I know the answer to a question like that? And I never even insinuated that, this is what I said:

    "Either the creeping Socialism of the left will gain ground, or the military industrial complex of the right that Eisenhower warned of will gain ground. America loses either way."

    WE'RE BROKE !!!

    WE CAN'T AFFORD EITHER EXTREME !!!

    WHAT'S DIFFICULT ABOUT GRASPING THAT CONCEPT???
     
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    Lets see...

    #1 We are ruled by a dictator that has unilateral power to command the military to do anything he wants...

    #2 The President can now, thanks to the Bill of Rights being done away with by the NDAA, send someone to your home, take you into custody, and hold you until the day you die without trial or explanation, for no reason whatsoever.

    #3 The whole system is governed by a two party system, where the media hand picks who its nominees will be, by lambasting those peoples opponents. We are then left to choose between two equally bought and paid for, sold out, politicians, who, no matter who is elected, makes the same decisions and has the same policies...regardless of what they say.


    Lets see, I would say right about now, Salty. Paul will never get elected, because the establishment will not let him be. He would cause them too many problems. The only chance that it could happen, would be if the people stopped listening to the media, on both sides. But that will never happen/
     
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    This year's version of the NDAA was signed into law by Obama 12-31-11:

    http://www.aclu.org/national-security/president-obama-signs-indefinite-detention-bill-law

    Per the ACLU, included for 2012 were these additions:

    1) Explicitly authorize the federal government to indefinitely imprison without charge or trial American citizens and others picked up inside and outside the United States;

    (2) Mandate military detention of some civilians who would otherwise be outside of military control, including civilians picked up within the United States itself; and

    (3) Transfer to the Department of Defense core prosecutorial, investigative, law enforcement, penal, and custodial authority and responsibility now held by the Department of Justice

    From Forbes:

    "So much for innocent until proven guilty. So much for limited government."

    The National Defense Authorization Act is the Greatest Threat to Civil Liberties Americans Face
     
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    Ron Paul will lose and everything will go according to our owner's intent. The rich will get richer and the the middle will discover they are now the working class.

    This will be a rerun of the Goldwater election.
     
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    Who do you say our owners are Bill?
     
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    I think he has a good chance of taking Iowa. If I am wrong I will say 'I was wrong.'
     
  19. NiteShift

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    And the forecast if Ron Paul loses - Cloudy with an 80% chance of Apocalypse [​IMG]
     
  20. billwald

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    >Who do you say our owners are Bill?

    The people who control the multinational corporations.
     
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