Featured what Roles Does Limbo/Purgatory Do In the RCC?

I think limbo has been removed as doctrine. Purgatory is a comforting doctrine because it gives people a second chance to shape up.

 

Technically, not sure there is such a person as an unbaptized Catholic baby.

A historical discussion:

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09256a.htm

From the new catechism: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p2s2c1a1.htm#1261

1261 As regards children who have died without Baptism, the Church can only entrust them to the mercy of God, as she does in her funeral rites for them. Indeed, the great mercy of God who desires that all men should be saved, and Jesus' tenderness toward children which caused him to say: "Let the children come to me, do not hinder them,"64 allow us to hope that there is a way of salvation for children who have died without Baptism. All the more urgent is the Church's call not to prevent little children coming to Christ through the gift of holy Baptism.

 

Concerning those chldren who die without baptism, the Catechism of the Catholic Church (no. 1261) says that “the Church can only entrust them to the mercy of God, as she does in her funeral rites for them. Indeed, the great mercy of God who desires that all men should be saved, and Jesus' tenderness toward children which caused him to say: "Let the children come to me, do not hinder them," allow us to hope that there is a way of salvation for children who have died without Baptism. All the more urgent is the Church's call not to prevent little children coming to Christ through the gift of holy Baptism.”

 

It isn't either or, as I understand the catechism. I am just starting to study the catechism so I really don't want to try and present their postion when the Catholics on this board can present it much more accurately. However, the bible seems to support what I believe to be their position with the following:


Mark 16: 15-16 – He said to them, “Go into the whole world and proclaim the gospel to every creature. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved; whoever does not believe will be condemned.”

"Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit."

1 Peter 3:21 – The like figure whereunto [even] baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God), by the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

And another verse says that unless you are born of water (water baptism) AND the spirit (baptism of the Holy Spirit), you cannot enter into the kingdom of heaven.

I really believe now that you have to go through some 'scriptural gymnastics' to make it say something other than the obvious. From my reading thus far, the Early Church doesn't seem to have had a different understanding than that of the Catholic Church.

 

They're sacerdotalists and simply for this fact preach another gospel. It doesn't matter what else they say they believe, the simple fact they practice this shows they preach a false gospel. Thus, the gospel itself is incomplete, this is why they put into practice this false doctrine. Sure, they try and smooth it over, but so did the Judaizers in Galatia.

 

Do you have any proof of your statement?

 

I grew up in the RCC and have never heard of such a thing. So can you provide some written documentation to support your statement such as a RCC website or something else.

 

The problem I have with a lot of what I read is something perpetuated by someone who thinks they know when they do not. It is not all that uncommon for others to exaggerate about someone of something they disagree with. Often nothing more than pure fabrication. So that is the reason why I asked for documentation.

I have found over the years that so often what I have read about the RCC is nothing more than a case of repeating what someone else said and it seriously lack credibility. Since 1975 the RCC has actualy made some changes in some of their theology.

At one time there was an attempt by one of the popes to return to orthodox theology. If I remember right he died before that was accomplished.

If one were to go back to Baptist theology and practice when Baptists first began they would have found infant baptism. Imagine pew rents. Imagine some of the views on the Holy Spirit!! Would it be fair to tag that as what Baptists today believe?

 

I am unable to find any documention you provided to support your statements though.

 

Again you have not provided any documentation for any of your statements. I would like to know where you got your information.