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Ron Paul’s Delegates Deluge: Minnesota, Washington State, Louisiana

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  1. poncho

    poncho Well-Known Member

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    #1 poncho, May 2, 2012
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    RP is a on factor as far as the Presidential election is concerned.
     
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    If you click on the link above you will see that some entity called MOXNews.com uploaded the video. Now, if you go to the MOXNews.com website:

    http://moxnews.com/

    and scroll all the way down you will see a photo titled "Below is the Space I Spend 14 Plus Hours a Day". Look closely at the blue/clear object with spiral tubes located between the two computer monitors. What is that? What is that silver clamp-like device sitting at the base of the blue/clear object?
     
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    At first I thought bong and roach clip - but after zooming to 400% it is clearly a flower vase and scissors. :laugh:
     
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    In caucus states he is taking over the delegate count. He's trying to play a spoiler or trying to be relevant, but in the end he will have little influence.
     
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    Yeah, I suppose you're right. The guy doesn't look like a stoner at all:

    [​IMG]
     
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    It's a bud vase.
     
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    Tell me: Are you aware that even in states where delegates are bound on the first ballot, they can abstain? I didn't either, till I looked it up. Apparently, it is a built in safeguard, in case the nominee is discovered with human heads in their basement, or something.

    The Paul folk have stealth delegates in all of the primary states. Now, I am not saying he will accomplish his goal, but it is certainly possible to have an upset. Paul as of this weekend, has officially won Maine and has the most delegates in Nevada (22 to 3).

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrOyrByhm9M&list=UUiHBOCMoTCdR2gzWH29n4TA&index=1&feature=plcp

    Add that to Louisiana, Minnesota, and now Iowa...

    http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2012/05/breaking-news-ron-paul-wins-iowa-yes-iowa/

    Not to mention SEVERAL other states, where Paul nearly tied with Romney for delegates....
     
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    No, I was not aware of that.

    Let's suppose that Paul and Santorum have just enough delegates to deny Romney the nomination on the first ballot at the RNC. Typically what happens next is a lot of horse trading of issues priorities and party platform additions. Then on the second ballot the front runner gets nominated. I just don't see a scenario where Paul can stealthily take the nomination.
     
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    Also, do you know the RNC rule (I believe it is #38), that says no delegate may be bound by rules from their home state, but that each delegate is free to vote as their conscience permits? Now, the home state may be able to impose penalties, kick them out of the party, or even level charges against them. But the people can vote however they wish. It all gets down to how serious the delegates are about winning.
     
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    Let's suppose that Paul and Santorum have just enough delegates to deny Romney the nomination on the first ballot at the RNC. Typically what happens next is a lot of horse trading of issues priorities and party platform additions. Then on the second ballot the front runner gets nominated. I just don't see a scenario where Paul can stealthily take the nomination.[/QUOTE]

    I don't think it is likely. But, like I said, it just depends on how many stealth delegates Paul actually has. Paul folks are prone to compromise.
     
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    No , it's not.:wavey:
     
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    There has been NO presidential primary in Washington State.
     
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    Ron Paul Wins Big in Nevada, Maine: “The Entire Establishment Should Be Embarassed”

    Despite the media blackout, Ron Paul is still a leading candidate in the 2012 U.S. presidential election against President Barack Obama. On Sunday May 6 2012, the results out of Nevada and Maine marked a historical event in the history of presidential elections. He won overall 43 delegates in the two states, who he will be bringing to Tampa, Florida for the national convention. Ron Paul, who has run for president three times altogether, continues to de facto shape national debate and the coming presidential election.

    CONTINUE . . .
     
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    Right. Cause 7 states and counting doesn't matter. The current (real)delegate count of 703 to 195 does not matter. The numerical possibilities don't matter.

    Just believe Carpro, brothers, and do what you Republican overlords tell you!
     
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    Despite what you may have heard from the mainstream media, Mitt Romney does not have the Republican nomination locked up. In fact, he is rapidly losing delegates that almost everyone assumed that he already had in the bag. To understand why this is happening, you have to understand the delegate selection process. Each state has different rules for selecting delegates to the Republican national convention, and in many states the "voting" done by the public does not determine the allocation of delegates to particular candidates at all. And the truth is that delegates are the only thing that really matters in this race. In state after state, the Ron Paul campaign is focusing on the delegate selection process with laser-like precision, and it is paying off big time. At this point, there is still a legitimate chance that Ron Paul will be able to win enough delegates to deny Mitt Romney the nomination on the first ballot at the Republican national convention in Tampa. If Romney does not have the 1,144 delegates that he needs on the first ballot, then it becomes a brokered convention and anything becomes possible at that point.

    Sadly, most Americans have no idea how this process really works.

    For example, originally we were all told that Mitt Romney won Iowa. Then, later on we were told that a mistake was made and that Rick Santorum actually won Iowa.

    Well, it turns out that Ron Paul actually won 20 out of the 28 delegates in Iowa. That is because the process of actually selecting the delegates occurred long after the voting by the public was over.

    So what happens if the Ron Paul campaign is able to produce similar results in state after state?

    The Ron Paul campaign is very organized, very motivated and they understand the rules of the game. As a recent Politico article detailed, there are huge amounts of unbound delegates out there that are still up for grabs....

    CONTINUE . . .
     
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    Good grief.......:rolleyes:
     
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