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Russia to send marines to Syria

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by freeatlast, Jun 18, 2012.

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    First you need to understand Russian Marines (Naval Infantry) are not the same kind of unit as the USMC. They may be good at guarding port facilities. But they are not an expeditionary force like our Marines.
     
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    You need to understand that they are not going there to stop the killing, but protect the current dictator against UN intervention.
     
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    My post was to explain that Russian Naval Infantry does not have the capabilities of the USMC. While the Kremlin probably wants them to carry out the mission you state, the RNI doesn't have the capability to do so. This won't be the first time the Kremlin's wishes ran far ahead of its abilities.
     
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    The same thing that’s happening to Christians in Egypt and Iraq will happen in Syria if Assad is removed from power…
     
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    And that's a reason for us to be pro-Assad?
     
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    Is he suggesting we be pro-Assad? He's probably stating the fact of the matter.
     
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    Is Assad Worse Than The Alternatives?

    "....In Egypt, Tunisia, Yemen and Libya, a survey by Abu Dhabi's Gallup Polls found that people feel less safe now than before the revolts took place.

    In all those countries Muslim fundamentalists have now more power than they had before. Now Syria is on the same route.

    We can already see what lies ahead when we know that in Syria on February 26, for the first time in Syria's modern history, an armed attack has been made on a Catholic monastery: 30 armed and masked jihadis attacked it demanding money.

    The Syrian Christian community has recently suffered a series of brutal murders and kidnappings: 100 Christians have been killed so far since the anti-government protests started.

    A report from the Barnabas Fund charity says that "children were being especially targeted by the kidnappers, who, if they do not receive the ransom demanded, kill the victim." In one tragic case, "a young Christian boy was killed by the rebels, who filmed the murder and then claimed that government forces had committed the act." A kidnapped man "was found hanged with numerous injuries", another "was cut into pieces and thrown in a river".

    As Raymond Ibrahim describes, "Christian minorities, who, as 10% of the Syrian population, have the most to gain from a secular government and the most to suffer from a state run by Islamic Sharia law, have no choice but to prefer Assad. ...prefer the devil they know to the ancient demon their forefathers knew."

    And another report from the Barnabas Fund says: "Christians have mostly stayed away from the protests in Syria, having been well treated and afforded a considerable amount of religious freedom under President Assad's regime. ...Should Assad fall, it is feared that Syria could go the way of Iraq, post-Saddam Hussein. Saddam, like Assad, restrained the influence of militant Islamists, but after his fall they were free to wreak havoc on the Christian community; hundreds of thousands of Christians were consequently forced to flee the violence. Many of them went to Syria."..."
     
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    The Church I attend is an Antiochian Orthodox Christian Church, although we are self ruled, we still share a common bond with the Patriarch of Antioch, unfortunately due to the troubled history of Christianity in the region, which has been marked by struggles and persecutions, particularly since the Islamic conquests, our Patriarchy is located in Damascus, Syria…

    Russia, I’m only assuming, as I haven’t read much about the Russians involvement, may stem from their general concern for the Orthodox Christians in Syria…President Putin and former President Medvedev are Russian Orthodox Christians and are sympathetic to the Christians in the Middle East…In May, 2010 Medvedev awarded the patriarch the Russian Order of Friendship…So, the Russians are very concerned…as are the Orthodox Christians here in the US.

    Our congregation is made up of Christians from not only Syria, but Lebanon, Jordan and Palestine…on a side note…gaining firsthand knowledge of how Orthodox Christians are treated in the West Bank or Gaza, from not only the Islamic Palestinians, but Israelis’, have really made me change my opinion on Israel, than I had when I was a former Baptist…so we have many family members that are still in the region and are currently under much duress…namely from the Islamic fraction of this rebellion in Syria…

    They’d rather keep Assad in power, and retain their religious freedom…they’ve see what has happened in Iraq, Egypt, Yemen, and recently Libya and they don’t want that to happen to them…

    The USA thinks they know what is best for other Countries, but I believe it’s time we keep our attention within our own borders and stop policing the world as we see fit…
     
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    'Israel first' is the mindset of most Baptists in the U.S.. The denomination has been ravaged with the dispensational heresy; Syrian, Coptic, Palestinian Christians, etc., take back seat to the Jews in the middle east.
     
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    It's always seemed strange to me that Baptists (and Christians in general) are some of the biggest champions of the very foreign policy that is expediting the radicalization and arming of Israel's enemies.

    What's up with that?
     
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    Leaving Israel out of the discussion, do you have any idea as to the opposition a "Baptist" church plant would face from "Syrian, Coptic, Palestinian Christians, etc"? And that's leaving the Muslims also out of the discussion.
     
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    Just as A_D was stating the fact of the matter here:

    I was also stating the fact of the matter here:

    Jews take precedence over Christians with the majority of Baptists. Most Baptists are unmindful of the Church in the ME.
     
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    You didn't understand my question. To put it less diplomatically, the "churches" cited above would all be against a Gospel preaching church plant.
     
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    Our to put it another way, the enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend.
     
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