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Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by billwald, Aug 7, 2012.

  1. billwald

    billwald New Member

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    Michael Savage, who is usually wrong, rightly says that the difference between Islam and Judaism is that Judaism has evolved but Islam is stuck in the 14th century. Is the difference between main line Christianity and radical Christianity that radical Christians have not evolved? ("radical" means basic, bottom line.)

    Are Christians who "only believe the Bible" radicals, unevolved?
     
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    Walter Well-Known Member
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    Hmmmmmm. Some people might argue that 'Emerging Churches' are an example of the Christian Religion evolving.
     
  3. Yeshua1

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    main difference is that islam had revelation from satan, demoic forces, while judaism, at least as under old Covenant in OT times, was a revelation from yahweh, the true God!
     
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    God does not change--nor does the truth. Changing to keep up with the times is what causes religions (including Christianity) to fall and to be taken over by sin. Sin is being accepted into churches that once preached the gospel, and too many Christians are saying something similar to what a German soldier often said on Hogan's Heroes, "I know nothing!"
     
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    No, those are just older heresies and liberal theologies being repackaged as "postmodern"!

    I am referring to those like Robb bell supports!
     
  6. billwald

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    Then we should stone children who bad mouth their parents?
     
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    God changing the old covenant for the new, which changed how people relate to God and others in practical ways but not in spiritual is not an evolution of religion but a fulfillment of God's purpose regarding the redemption of His people.


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    The difference is in evolution of a religion it is man making changes as opposed to God working out His perfect will.
     
  8. billwald

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    The covenants are accumulative. The newer does not replace the older. Rejecting the OT is the big "dispensational" error and ignorance of the OT is the big "reformed" error.

    Consider Acts and the Council of Jerusalem. Why did the Jerusalem Synod clearly and simply order Paul to tell his gentiles to obey the Ten Commandments? Because the Mosaic Covenant had no application to gentiles outside The Land.
     
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    We do not reject or ignore the OT. Paul did not tell Gentiles to obey the 10 Commandments. The council in Acts 15 made no such demand. Col 2, Rom 14, and Gal all point to our freedom in Christ. Further, in Hebrews we read how God made the Old Covenant obsolete.
     
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    Jon, this is a very true statement. However our understanding of God and God's truth changes over time. It was only a very short time ago, historically speaking, that many preachers defended and said that God approved of slavery. Almost no one would agree with that today.

    There are other beliefs that once held sway and were defended by quoting the Bible, but I believe you see my drift.

    Blessings.
     
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    So, it seems to me that Theology is ever a work in progress, no?
     
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    We certainly learn knew things and gain new information about old things. I know some may consider that an evolution of sorts. Those things we learn about, in and of themselves, do not evolve.
     
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    I completely agree. As we gain insights our theology changes. This is true within our own lives also. My beliefs about God when I was a child are not the same as my beliefs about God now. As we grow in our understanding our personal theology changes. This is only right and natural.
     
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    Our understanding of the bible and its theology does grow and mature, but the point is that the truths NEVER in it change, just how we may fuller understand/know/apply them!
     
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    Tensed truth statements change.
     
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    example please?
     
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    It is true that I am hungry now. Once I eat my wife's delicious meal she made the statement made of my appetite will not be true. Is not truth the accurate representation of reality?
     
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    There is nothing in an earlier covenant which is contradicted in a later covenant. Jesus never contradicted any statement in any covenant. Jesus confirmed Moses' statement that the Law was "doable." Jesus said it clearer than Moses did.
     
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    The RCC has evolved in its 1500 year existence from writing down false doctrine on scrolls to writing down false doctrine using Microsoft Office 2010.
     
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    Do religions evolve? Of course they do. Usually dragged kicking, screaming, and throwing a tantrum. The RCC burned Bruno at the stake for his views that other stars were suns. They almost did the same to Galileo, who supposedly whispered about the earth, "Nevertheless, it moves". The Latter Day Saints got a new revelation about polygamy, an eternal covenant, being taken back; as well as the curse on black people. Thus it has been, and thus it will always be. Religion is resistant to new data, as it upsets their pet views and interpretations of their sacred scriptures. I have no doubt that those who hold that no life exists other than on earth will rework their theology to accommodate the new data when (and if) extraterrestrial life is discovered...or else, deny the clear data altogether and dogmatically cling to their views as divine truth.
     
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