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Will Obama Declare Martial Law before Election? There are credible leaks....

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by LadyEagle, Aug 8, 2012.

  1. LadyEagle

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    Rest here: http://www.westernjournalism.com/will-obama-attempt-to-declare-martial-law-before-november-election/


    Rest, including credentials of this interview here:
    http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/zieve/120807
     
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  2. InTheLight

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    Once again the old canard about the President canceling the upcoming election is making the rounds again. The first time I heard of this was in 1996 when Bill Clinton was going to 'cancel' the election. Then it was repeated in 2000 with some twist where Clinton would resign, Gore would become President and then Gore would nominate Hillary to be the VP. Then it came up again in 2004, but this time Bush was going suspend the election. Same thing in 2008. Now we have it happening again.

    The election will be held as usual.

    During the economic downturn of 2008 it was said that Bush would suspend the elections. Food prices were going to go through the roof. The dollar was going to crash. There would be hyper-inflation. Oil prices would spike and the "globalists" would not allow the Bakken oil field in North Dakota to be drilled. There would be rioting in the streets with jack-booted government soldiers rounding up protestors. (I bet if I were to search BB's archives I could find all of this speculation.) None of it came true. This stuff keeps making the rounds like a bad forwarded email.
     
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  3. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Though I shouldn't be, I am amazed at the silliness and drivel like that spouted out by the authors of the articles quoted in the OP. Are they never embarrassed by their foolishness and stupidity?

    There is not a snowball's chance in an Alabama August that President Obama would even consider such a ludicrous idea.

    Even IF he were to think about this in a moment of absent mindedness even he would know what a wacky notion it would be.

    For a leader to pull this off he has to be popular - the president is not.
    For a leader to pull this off he has to have leadership skills - the president does not.
    For a leader to pull this off he needs military (or similar) backing - the president does not.
    For a leader to pull this off he needs a strong personality - the president does not.

    Rest at ease folks - this notion will go the way of oath taking on the Koran in the last election and marital law to cancel the mid-terms.

    I know I am not as smart as many here - but I can tell you with absolute assurance that you don't have to worry about martial law being declared before the election.

    The nut jobs quoted in the OP know it as well. The are self-deluded with their 'my source' tells me this and that and they remind of my grandchildren trying to get attention.
     
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    Whoa! Talk about sleaze. Is there no depth of silliness that Obama haters will not stoop to?
     
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    Righteous indignation can really be ironic at times.
     
  6. Magnetic Poles

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    The answer is "No". Delusional post at best. They live in a world of paranoia and fear. The election will be held as scheduled.
     
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    Let's be fair. The author of the OP merely posited a question for discussion based on a couple of articles. We need to be sure that we address the articles without questioning the motivation of the author of the OP.

    The people who wrote the linked articles are simply delusional, paranoid, fearmongeriing, tin foil hat wearing, conspiracy theorising, logic lacking nut cases who have lost all touch with reality. The question they pose is foolish at best.
     
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    While I do not agree with the op it fails in comparison to the constant sleaze you engage in.
     
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    As predicted this time 4 years ago...this board has descended into oblivion by their constant (and unfounded) attacks on the current administration.

    I don't know how anyone could take the quoted people in the OP seriously. Of course we have a guy at our church who wants to hold seminars on emergency preparedness when the country goes belly up and our society ends. He's convinced this will happen. We try to keep him away from microphones.
     
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    http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=30993

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    Might bring folks out of their stupor!
     
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    People specualte about everything. The problem here is this is more then specualtion. This is an attempt to slander.
     
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    WE heard the same rumors about Bush during the last Bush administration. Why would the international corporations want to upset their apple cart?
     
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    No further discussion on this fascinating topic?
     
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    While I agree, it is also a fact that some things are just so fringe and looney that people only spread them to foment distrust and get others to buy into their pet conspiracy theories.
     
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    You mean along the line of Romney being responsible for that woman's death from cancer?????:sleep:

    Yep, I agree with your statement!:thumbs:
     
  18. LadyEagle

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    Whoever on the BB would that be?

    I post, you decide. We will wait and see if these people writing about these things are loony tunes. But in the event of a Martial Law, the Internet as a form of communication will be suspended.

    Perhaps some of you should enlighten yourselves as to what Martial Law entails and the many Executive Orders concerning this, not only by obama, but other presidents, as well.

    I find it rather sad that no matter how much regulatory power obama gives away to his czars, no matter how many times he circumvents Congress, no matter how many times his administration disregards the rule of law and invades our privacy, there is nary a peep out of his defenders. If this were written about a Romney, you would be all over it and spreading the "rumor" no doubt.

    Point: Too much power in the hands of ANY man, be he Republican or Democrat, obama or a GW Bush, was never intended to be given to the Executive Branch by our Constitution and the Founding Fathers.

    Our government has and continues to fail us, we the people.

    So, just for purposes of discussion surrounding the Martial Law issue, is there any scenario you can envision that would justify a declaration of Martial Law?

    Civil unrest in the streets? We've had civil unrest in the streets before, but no martial law.

    Is it or is it not true that this president has fomented division among the American people? I say, it is true. Just look at the wild posts, personal attacks, etc. on this board alone.
     
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  19. InTheLight

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    Good idea.

    First of all, martial law is the calling out of the military to replace civilian law enforcement. Please explain how the military is going to prevent an election from happening?

    Secondly, Obama cannot simply issue an executive order to postpone national elections.

    Thirdly, even if he were to attempt it, I'm certain the Supreme Court would immediately rule that it was illegal.

    In the article you linked to, the supposition was that Obama's czars would foment riots, based on race, in major cities in the U.S. This would cause martial law to be invoked and because of the resulting widespread chaos, Obama would 'cancel' the election.

    Really?

    Please post a detailed scenario as to how you see Obama canceling the elections. Once you start to think it through I believe you will come to the conclusion that he can't do it.
     
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    A natural disaster over widespread area that rendered local law enforcement ineffective. Earthquake or hurricane. I believe martial law was put in place after hurricane Katrina. Typically, though, each state would call out the National Guard in these incidences. Natural disasters can't be scheduled so I don't think we'll be seeing this happening the last week of October, just prior to the election.

    An attack by another country could also do it. I don't think Obama and his czars can pull that off in late October.

    Yes, but this is the scenario presented in the OP. Keep in mind that martial law does not mean that the constitution has been suspended, that the Bill of Rights is no longer in force, it means that military forces are responsible for law enforcement.

    Yes, but it's subtle, and mostly along the wealthy vs. poor or middle class. Otherwise some of the division that Obama has 'created' has been mostly right wing-nuts stirring up the pot with inaccurate and slanderous emails about Obama that make the rounds.
     
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