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Mitt Romney, caught on video tape

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Crabtownboy, Sep 18, 2012.

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  1. Crabtownboy

    Crabtownboy Well-Known Member
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    I understand that Romney was saying what his supporters wanted to hear ... but his comments had little to do with the truth as fact check shows. If the average folk in the Deep South did not support him he would not win any of those states.

    Here is one written response:
     
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    The problem is that Romney is correct. Why would a person want to vote for a President who would take away his "give-me-beause-you-owe-me" programs.

    And earned benefits such as goverment retirement need to be revamped. it's nice - but such generous progams will bankup the US and or States/Commonwelths even further.
    I am not saying they should be cut out, but they are far to generous.

    Was talking to a lady the other day, as a retired public school teacher, she makes over $3,000 - per month. Thats more than some people make working 40+ hours per week.
    (+ she also gets social security)
     
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  3. Crabtownboy

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    Some people, and even some Christians believe that it is good to help those in need, even though some will abuse the system.

    And some, even some Christians would rather have their tax money go to help other Americans than to have their tax dollars kill people in other countries.

    And you begrudge her having a comfortable life?
     
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    Many do, with their own money and bring many into their home to live for a while. If they abuse what I've given, I'll cut them off from my help. I just don't care for the government doing it.





    Care about the children? I think it is more about how much they can get, pay, health care, retirement and so on.
     
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    Funny stuff - the OP that is...

    The first thing that the supposed "fact checker" has to do to make his case is redifine "federal income taxes". :laugh:
     
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    Hmmm. Wonder what all these people getting freebies (and these government handouts don't include SS and Medicare), will do when the money and the freebies run out during obama's second term? Wonder how they'll feel about granny or themselves being denied care because they are old or smoke, are overweight, mentally ill, drink, etc.??? Maybe the government will deny them care because they are "unfit" like they did in Nazi Germany. Perhaps the government will deny them care because they are stupid.


    Report just out: During the obama administration 3.5 million people have signed up for Social Security Disability benefits and 1/4 of those are illegitimate claims, not being reviewed properly. Can we say FRAUD? No wonder they will vote for obama!
     
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    Game set, match.

    He just couldn't keep his mouth shut. A stunning example of how bad a candidate he is when a half-drunk, womanizing pervert could have won in November.

    After a week of news that should shred the approval rating of any incumbent, Romney still manages to not make two talking points stick.

    This is why politics is simultaneously the most idiotic and revealing thing in our society.
     
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    Romney is going to lose - he just isn't strong enough, not hard hitting enough, and is being ill advised, perhaps on purpose, who knows. The campaign is being run like old time politics and it just isn't going to work. Not now in the age of instant media and 24 hour news cycles. With 1/2 of the electorate on the government dole, he doesn't stand a chance. Nazi Germany, here we come.
     
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    Your analysis is most political. :laugh:
     
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    Some people do their giving with other people's money.
     
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    The foreign press is all over the story that Libya warned the U.S. of the upcoming attack on the U.S. embassy. That's not getting much play here at home, instead the media has ganged up on Romney for issuing a statement critical of Obama's response. Meanwhile the U.S. ambassador to the U.N. flat out lies and says the attack was spontaneous and the U.S. press does nothing to challenge her.

    Then this tape recording of Romney miraculously appears.
     
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    How do we know that Romney is not in the group that paid no taxes?

    Why does he fault people who legally pay no taxes because of low salaries. Why does he vilify them as irresponsible?
     
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    Many fallacies mark Romney’s depiction of the 47%

    So Romney includes people who will vote for him as in the irresponsible group. Eight of the ten poorest states went for McCain in 2008. So he is insulting one of his most important pool of people who probably will vote for HIM.

    Even conservative writers see the fallacy of Mitt's comment.

    Yeah, those seniors who worked hard but now freeload on Social Security and Medicare are now irresponsible. Nice thanks to them for years of hard work Mitt.
     
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    Romney's Greatest Deception

    The tax code actually shifts wealth from the poor to the rich ... not the opposite as Romney claims.

     
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    (yawn) ....
     
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    Great example of "lib-think"....

    The 53% who pay taxes are stealing money form the 43% who don't pay taxes. :laugh:
     
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    From the article that Crab quoted: "for this tax expenditure for the rich" A tax CREDIT is NOT a TAX expenditue.

    Lets make it very simple. Suppose a person would owe $10 in taxes without figuring his home intrest credit. Now figuring in his tax credit - lets say it would be $15 he would NOT get $5 back from the govt - it would only zero out his taxes.
    (unlike the earned income credit, where many get back more money that was deducted from their income)

    A tax expenditue is money that is spent from available funds. The govt is not spending any extra money. IT simply is not collecting extra taxes - (from someone who probably is paying a whole bunch to begin with)
     
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  20. Crabtownboy

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    You miss the point and prove the last paragraph.


     
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