1. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Pelosi: Democrats will amend Constitution to overturn ‘Citizens United’

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Revmitchell, Oct 13, 2012.

  1. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2006
    Messages:
    52,013
    Likes Received:
    3,649
    Faith:
    Baptist
    If Democrats were to take control of the House of Representatives after the November elections, Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said her party would “amend the [U.S.] Constitution” on the “very first day” to overturn the Supreme Court’s “Citizens United” decision.

    President Obama said he supports a constitutional amendment to reverse the ruling and keep undisclosed corporate contributions out of elections.

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/20/p...ed-if-they-control-house-video/#ixzz29BbhpXAp
     
  2. Arbo

    Arbo Active Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2010
    Messages:
    3,942
    Likes Received:
    1
    She is not delegated by the Constitution with that power. She can only attempt to start the process. Unfortunately, most Americans probably don't know this and will take her word for it.
     
  3. Oldtimer

    Oldtimer New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2011
    Messages:
    1,934
    Likes Received:
    2
    Unfortunately, too, many if not most Americans don't care enough to learn the constitutional limitations on what she can do. :(
     
  4. billwald

    billwald New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2000
    Messages:
    11,414
    Likes Received:
    2
    Thanks for the good news. I support an amendment which simply states that corporations are not persons.
     
  5. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2006
    Messages:
    52,013
    Likes Received:
    3,649
    Faith:
    Baptist
    That will never happen and Pelosi cannot do what she thinks.
     
  6. Robert Snow

    Robert Snow New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2009
    Messages:
    4,466
    Likes Received:
    3
    Pelosi is making her intentions known. Few, if any, of her intended target will ever check out and see how this turns out. They also know little about what it takes to amend the Constitution.
     
  7. preachinjesus

    preachinjesus Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2004
    Messages:
    7,406
    Likes Received:
    101
    At this a constitutional amendment about campaign finance reform is sorely needed though impossible to accomplish.

    Congresswoman Pelosi is a troubling figure, if for no other reason than she claims to have Constitutional knowledge but demonstrates she doesn't know the Constitution on many occasions. She also isn't a good representative for the Democrats but that isn't the issue. However, I understand the underlying point.

    Campaign finance in this country is out of control and not anywhere near the ideals of the founders. Of course our current country has become the exact thing we revolted against in 1776 so I don't know how biting that criticism is anymore.

    The Citizens United case is a harbinger of a scary trend in Constitutional cases. I'm sorry, but corporations are not individuals. They may be made up of individuals, but they don't have electoral voice. The Supreme Court's decision was a poor one imho. It extends the free exercise clause too far.

    We need substantial campaign finance reform if our country is going to return to the ideals of its originators. All, yep all, soft money contributions should be eliminated. No candidate should be able to provide personal income or personal loans to their own election campaign. The only money which should be able to be raise should be hard money contributions. All other contributions are unlawful and disqualify a candidate prior to or after their election.

    One of the greatest challenges to our electoral process is the flow of money to candidates and the resulting influence on legislation that brings. (I'm also in favor of high regulations on lobbyists.) Though many previous generations had the sensibility to not become corrupted by these financial obligations it is clear our present leaders do not have their common sense or decency. We need drastic overhauls to the system.
     
  8. Squire Robertsson

    Squire Robertsson Administrator
    Administrator

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2000
    Messages:
    15,371
    Likes Received:
    2,405
    Faith:
    Baptist
    The Dems may or may not gain or keep control of the House and Senate. But in both houses they will lack the 2/3s majority needed to pass Pelosi's amendment. And then there is the 2/3's of the States agreeing to the amendment.
     
  9. Oldtimer

    Oldtimer New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2011
    Messages:
    1,934
    Likes Received:
    2
    Is she also going to stop this, too?
    The Obama Campaign Processed This Donation
    http://www.redstate.com/2012/10/08/the-obama-campaign-processed-this-donation/

    Is she going to stop donations using prepaid credit cards from unknown contributors from unknown locations?

    It will be interesting to see how she manages acomplish this, simply by returning her to power in Congress. A Constitutional amendment requires the following agreement by the House, Senate and the states.

     
  10. mont974x4

    mont974x4 New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2012
    Messages:
    2,565
    Likes Received:
    1
    If not done carefully it will end up so businesses cannot own property or protect its assets legally. It will also make so that they cannot be taxed. So be careful what you wish for.



    That is, of course, assuming Obama forces it on us like he does everything else. Maybe Pelosi will get her on tsar-ship?
     
  11. Magnetic Poles

    Magnetic Poles New Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2005
    Messages:
    10,407
    Likes Received:
    0
    What has Obama forced on you? Nothing.
     
  12. Magnetic Poles

    Magnetic Poles New Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2005
    Messages:
    10,407
    Likes Received:
    0
    Also neither Mitt or the Pres can create jobs, raise or lower taxes, nor spend money.
     
  13. mont974x4

    mont974x4 New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2012
    Messages:
    2,565
    Likes Received:
    1
    obamacare
    insane debt


    no, the president does not directly control the budget etc but we'd have to be blind to not know the authority they have, especially with their party in control in congress. Not to mention Obama's insistence in naming tsars and massive amounts of executive orders.
     
  14. Bro. Curtis

    Bro. Curtis <img src =/curtis.gif>
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2001
    Messages:
    22,016
    Likes Received:
    487
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Obama's war on coal is most certainly a force.
     
  15. preachinjesus

    preachinjesus Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2004
    Messages:
    7,406
    Likes Received:
    101
    Has the President's administration closed any coal plants?
     
  16. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2006
    Messages:
    52,013
    Likes Received:
    3,649
    Faith:
    Baptist
  17. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2004
    Messages:
    25,823
    Likes Received:
    1,167
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Wishful thinking.

    As usual, Pelosi lives in a fantasy world.

    It won't happen.The constitution will not be amended for this. Bank it.
     
  18. mont974x4

    mont974x4 New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2012
    Messages:
    2,565
    Likes Received:
    1
    Obama has proven he does not care what the Constitution says so why would he bother amending i? He could just do another executive order.
     
  19. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2004
    Messages:
    25,823
    Likes Received:
    1,167
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Good point!! :thumbs:
     
  20. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2006
    Messages:
    52,013
    Likes Received:
    3,649
    Faith:
    Baptist
    He is up to 140 so far.
     
Loading...