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Tax Policy Center says Romney CAN'T Keep Tax Reform Promises

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Zaac, Oct 26, 2012.

  1. Zaac

    Zaac Well-Known Member

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    SO why exactly is Romney complaining about President Obama's tax raises on the evil 1% if, according to this study, his plan is to raise taxes on the same people?:confused:
     
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    The study makes assumptions about what Romney would change in the tax code that Romney has not articulated.

    The best that they can say is that under the assumptions that they make it would not work...

    Not that Romney can not make changes that would work.

    It also ignores the possibility of reducing spending to cut the deficit.

    This has already been rehashed here on the board several times already.
     
  3. Zaac

    Zaac Well-Known Member

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    any tax assessment always makes assumptions as it generally hasn't taken place yet. But this is a non-partisan group from the looks of it. They look to have done their homework on the subject.

    But again, why is Romney planning to raise taxes?
     
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    targus New Member

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    Reading comprehension problem?

    The assumptions that they are making are their own - about what the specifics of Romney's plan are.

    They are not analyzing Romney's plan.

    And you don't know if Romney will raise taxes.
     
  5. Zaac

    Zaac Well-Known Member

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    My reading comprehension is fine, thank you much. But as usual, you start with the digs.



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    They analyzed his plan the same way the folks who determined its growth effects did.

    According to the the TPC it does. And folks can call it a tomato or a tomoto. It's still the same.
     
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    I notice that you also glossed over spending cuts as part of the plan.

    Not to mention limiting itemized deductions.
     
  7. InTheLight

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    Romney claims he's not going to raise taxes. You're taking the word of one of the experts in the article you linked to. Read some more from the article:

    Others have argued that the Tax Policy Center filled in too many of the holes in Mr. Romney’s light-on-detail proposal — making a full analysis impossible and skewing the center’s paper’s results.

    “It is not an analysis of Governor Romney’s plan,” said Scott A. Hodge, the president of the Tax Foundation. a nonprofit research group also based in Washington.

    “It has been, I think, mislabeled as such and misinterpreted as such. We don’t think there are enough details to analyze,” he said, adding that he believed that it was possible to devise a distributionally neutral, revenue neutral tax reform that cut rates in the way Mr. Romney described.


    So why believe Harvey S. Rosen of Princeton over Scott A. Hodge? Especially when Romney says he won't raise taxes?
     
  8. Zaac

    Zaac Well-Known Member

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    Does that mean he's not going to raise taxes?
     
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    Zaac Well-Known Member

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    ITL, what I was referencing was the following:

    Does he promise in his plan to raise taxes on those people?
     
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    InTheLight Well-Known Member
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    No, Romney has stated many, many times that he wants to lower tax rates 20% for everyone but keep net taxes paid by the wealthy 2% the same by closing loopholes and deductions.
     
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    Interesting. Was just wondering why this guy was saying "as he promised".
     
  12. InTheLight

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    It doesn't make any sense. Romney has never promised to raise taxes. The only time I've heard Romney allude to the $200,000 income figure was his promise to eliminate capital gains taxes for people that make less than $200,000.
     
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    I'll trust the plans of a conservative candidate over the poor results of the liberal now in office who promises to keep doing the same thing.
     
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    Amen to that. If some people would spend some time listening to Romney instead of bashing him, they would be better informed.
     
  15. InTheLight

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    I heard Romney's new stump speech today on POTUS radio on SiriusXM. Very good speech. Much more info and better delivery than any debate performance, TV ad, or interview. He talks about the big problems that he and Ryan are willing to tackle but that Obama shrank away from.

    Found this:

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/26/excerpts-romney-economic-speech/comment-page-1/
     
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    Thanks, ITL: From your link: "We have had four presidential and vice-presidential debates. And there is nothing in what the President proposed or defended that has any prospect of meeting the challenges of the times. Raising taxes will not grow jobs or ignite the economy–in fact, his tax plan has been calculated to destroy 700,000 jobs. "
     
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    Zaac Well-Known Member

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    Well, I guess you need to relay that to the non-partisan TPC. :laugh:

     
  18. Arbo

    Arbo Active Member
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    Zaac, why don't you just show some honesty and admit that you are an Obamaite? Most people here know it already. You haven't fooled many people so far because you're too obvious.
     
  19. Zaac

    Zaac Well-Known Member

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    Arbo, why don't you and your friends just admit what everybody here knows:that you have Romnesia and you hate Obama.
     
  20. Revmitchell

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    Yep ans Obama supporter. Most likely a DNC operative.
     
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