The New World Order is in place and ruling

That's a fact but if you dare speak out in favor of seceding from the NWO they'll call you un American as if somehow being turned into slaves that serve an unelected global bureaucracy is what being an American has always been about.

 

Time to get the tin foil hats out.

 

Then again maybe it's time to get our thinking caps out instead. I mean there must be a reason your kind of thinking is being replaced by my kind of thinking.

I think it might have something to do with the growing mountain of facts and evidence that can't easily be debunked by posting silly pictures anymore. Face it Rev it ain't working anymore. Look around people are waking up even here.

Won't be long till even BB is taken over by "truthers" and I only say that because it's true. :smilewinkgrin:

 

So much baloney. You do not have one shred of evidence of a world wide conspiracy. You cannot prove connections between the international banking industry, corporations, military structures, or behind the scenes mystery men pulling the strings. You have made who knows how many posts based on articles you have read or movies you have seen.

You do not have one direct sentence of direct, personal evidence. Where have you ever worked or served (thats a good one) in government, worked in a corporate headquarters, had an office in the UN, or had any personal contact with international bankers.

Your entire premise crumbles, because all your posts boil down to your opinion of a few op eds that you have read. You might as well have read a Dr. Suess book, for the conclusions you present.

No doubt there are connections between this nation and others that are unConstitutional. So what is new? In my opinion, you have never read the Constitution.

Instead of making endless posts that sound like a science fiction movie, why don't you become involved in the political process to effect a change? I will tell you why you will not, because you have never done anything that takes grass roots hard work. All you have ever done is post on a forum board.

Grow up.

 

1 John 4:3 tells us all we need to know about a NWO.

 

Actually there's lot's of evidence of a world wide conspiracy. But it's hidden from those who can't see beyond the false left vs right paradigm. To them it's just lefties vs righties and nothing else.

 

IMO............

There is no single smoke filled backroom where a few people are plotting to take over the world. This is where people get derailed, both in accusing others of wearing tin-foil hats and in assuming that 1 group of people are in control.

The international banking industry has pretty much suceeded in obtaining control of the global economy. The balance of power in the world has shifted from who has the most nukes to how will I be affected if the economy of abc falls. Does the US have an independent economy any longer? Or, do we rise and fall with the "global" economic situation? Proof of that is reflected often at the opening bell on Wall Street. When a trading day begins on the Pacific Rim with a downturn, it is often reflected in the same manner as the opening moves westward across the world. Or, anywhere in the time zones preceeding ours. That's just one way to illustrate that we are no longer economically independent.

Keeping focus on the 1%, the international bankers, the "elite", is just a small part of the emerging picture. And/or keeping focus on corporations is basically the same thing. There are a few super (for lack of a better word) corporations who are seeking to dominate the world. Individually they will court anyone else who can give them the edge. GE, for example, has embraced any and everyone who promotes "green energy". Is it a "conspiracy theory"? No. "Global warming" promotion fills their pockets. Thus, if the United Nations put's forth a mandate that, in effect, kills the coal industry in the US, GE expects the US to comply. Conspiracy? No. The New GLOBAL Order helps increase their bottom line.

There's a long list of indicators that the US and many other countries are yielding their sovernity and are merging into a New World Order. The formation of the European Union is a prime example. The US going to the UN and asking for UN approval for xyz is another example. One more. The US Supreme Court looking towards international law as a part of their basis for decisions on US domestic affairs.

SN, did you look at the long list of leaders of the US supporting the concept of a "New World Order" in the link posted earlier? This wasn't a bunch of folks whispering to each other behind closed doors. For proof of that, look at the dates cited.

Yes, there are some tin foil hat types promoting invasions by aliens, and "conspiracy theories" hiding behind every tree. And society is using them to brand anyone who doesn't agree with the path that society is taking.

WebDog made a good point.

1 John 4: KJB
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

Let me add:
1 John 2:17 KJB
17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

Instead of debating about tin foil hats .... Are we simply watching God's plan unfold?

 

There is no doubt that God's sovereignty drives things presently unfolding on earth for His purposes. The Lord is in control of everything. I stay out of the endless ad nauseum Calvinism threads because they produce nothing. God is in control, we all agree on that point.

It is also quite apparant that one of the signs that things are going downhill is everyone's selfishness compared to say 40 years ago. There is no patience, tolerance or love for one another, or it has decreased to a very low level. It is quite clear if one has to work in retail, the reaction of the general public. (no way for me) Also, morals nationally are on a downward spiral. It is a result of the self centeredness and greed mentioned above.

The general trend is going as the Bible says. It is quite a stretch to take a blame that is upon all of us to one degree or another and place is on a few people we describe as international globalist corporation conspirators that sieze every shred of power they come across. Whether or not this is true, we cannot blame the shape of our world on them. We can start by looking in the mirror.

If there is a group of elites taking over the world, then it is our fault. Had we held our leaders to the Constitution and Biblical principles over the years, then it might be a different outcome. Why didn't we? Because we are too lazy, disinterested, and too focuses on ourselves.

That brings me to the posters on this subject, as a constant, single message. I doubt they ever read the Constitution. They have no experience with government, history, or politics, Basically, they read questionable web sites and copy and paste. They never served, they never knocked on a door, and basically, never left the keyboard. If there is a conspriacy, I want to hear from someone who has the moral authority to proclaim such.

By the way, your point is well taken about the pattern of the markets starting with Asia. Usually, and I emphasize usually, not always, if Asia comes in down, then Europe and the Untied States follow in lock step. No doubt our economies are more interrelated than before. We should be more independent as the Constititution says. We should be on our own for energy. We should have no presence in Muslim countries. There are lots of things that should be.

Here is another question to ponder? If these posters believe this is God's plan, then why do they spend 24/7 typing thinking they are going to change it?

 

Invisible Empire A New World Order Defined

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO24XmP1c5E&feature=related

No evidence? Only by closing the mind and eyes completely to it all can one say, "there is no evidence".

The evidence is manifest.

 

Exactly. Thank you. Same goes for 'ethnocentric characteristics'. Requires no conspiracy or planning, it just comes naturally.

 

Ya think?

http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?p=1927584#post1927584

 

I do, others do not.

 

I don't believe there is a conspiracy either. I suppose it is the nature of the "beast"!

 

Pertaining to the 'banksters' (all of which are Jews):

http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=82958

 

Ditto to that.

 

Got a library card OR? Turn off the TV and Baptist Board long enough to read "Tragedy And Hope".

About the Author

Carroll Quigley (1910-1977) was a highly respected professor at the School of Foreign Service at Gerogetown University. He was an instructor at Princeton and Harvard; a consultant to the U.S. Department of Defense, the House Committee on Astronautics and Space Exploration; and the U.S. Navy.

In the meantime have a listen to Zbigniew Brzezinski. Keep in mind that he is not speaking of the majority of people here. You guys are to lost in the false left vs right paradigm to become "politically awakened".

During a recent speech in Poland, former US National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski warned fellow elitists that a worldwide “resistance” movement to “external control” driven by “populist activism” is threatening to derail the move towards a new world order.

Calling the notion that the 21st century is the American century a “shared delusion,” Brzezinski stated that American domination was no longer possible because of an accelerating social change driven by “instant mass communications such as radio, television and the Internet,” which have been cumulatively stimulating “a universal awakening of mass political consciousness.”

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The former US National Security Advisor added that this “rise in worldwide populist activism is proving inimical to external domination of the kind that prevailed in the age of colonialism and imperialism.”

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Brzezinski concluded that “persistent and highly motivated populist resistance of politically awakened and historically resentful peoples to external control has proven to be increasingly difficult to suppress.”

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Although Brzezinski delivered his comments in a neutral tone, the context of the environment in which he said them allied to his previous statements would indicate that this is not a celebration of “populist resistance” but a lament at the impact it is having on the kind of “external control” Brzezinski has repeatedly advocated.

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The remarks were made at an event for the European Forum For New Ideas (EFNI), an organization that advocates the transformation of the European Union into an anti-democratic federal superstate, the very type of bureaucratic “external control” Brzezinski stressed was in jeopardy in his lecture.

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In this context, it must be understood that Brzezinski’s point about “populist resistance” being a major hindrance to the imposition of a new world order is more of a warning than an acclamation.

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Also consider what Brzezinski wrote in his book Between Two Ages: America’s Role in the Technotronic Era, in which he advocated the control of populations by an elite political class via technotronic manipulation.

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How many of Brzezinski's books have you all read? From the replies I'm guessing none.