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The ten worst ways your children are being poisoned right now

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  1. poncho

    poncho Well-Known Member

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    Modern children are being poisoned like never before in the history of human civilization. No wonder the rate of autism in America has skyrocketed to 1 in 88 children over the last few decades, putting autism squarely in the "epidemic" category.

    But don't expect any CDC action on this epidemic. The CDC knows full well why autism rates are exploding across America, but instead of admitting the truth, the CDC is running a cover story to protect the corporate interests of the real culprits: the medical corporations poisoning children for profit (see below).

    It's not just medical companies that are poisoning our children, by the way: They're also being poisoned in other insidious ways that suppress free thinking, assault good health and crush children's souls.

    Here's my list of the ten worst ways in which our children are being poisoned right now.
     
  2. annsni

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    Yet I don't believe any of those have been scientifically proven to cause autism, have they?
     
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    Autism rates have skyrocketed because more children are being diagnosed with Autism spectrum disorders. These children used to be labeled differently. It's a shift in perspective.
     
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    Somebody needs to add high fructose corn syrup to that list. My GOSH!!! It and wheat flour are in EVERYTHING. :laugh:
     
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    I noticed that there's no substantive evidence to the article's claim of a conspiracy.

    Worthy of note are the advertisements on the link's page, such as the do-it-yourself cure for cancer (for only $5.15/day).
     
  6. poncho

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    You're right. The author of this article assumes most of his readers have done their homework on the subjects he addresses. A lot of people have evidently otherwise there wouldn't be so many health care pros that refuse to be vaccinated these days.

    Do they know something you don't?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NHIDEqydS8

    Here's a poll from Fox News.

    Which Do You Think is a Greater Risk?

    Cast your vote and see the results.

    [Video] Bayer Sells AIDS-Infected Drug Banned in U.S. in Europe, Asia - Unearthed documents show that the drug company Bayer sold millions of dollars worth of an injectable blood-clotting medicine -- Factor VIII concentrate, intended for hemophiliacs -- to Asian, Latin American, and some European countries in the mid-1980s, although they knew that it was tainted with AIDS. Bayer knew about the fact that the drug was tainted and told the FDA to keep things under wraps while they made a profit off of a drug that infected its patients. If these allegations are true, then both Bayer and the FDA are at fault for this catastrophe. FDA regulators helped to keep the continued sales hidden, asking the company that the problem be ''quietly solved without alerting the Congress, the medical community and the public,'' according to the minutes of a 1985 meeting

    To read the English-speaking media, you'd never know that Bayer (BAYRY) just paid "tens of millions" of dollars to end a three-decade long scandal in which the company sold HIV-contaminated blood products to haemophiliacs, thousands of whom later died of AIDS.

    Ironically, Bayer's new haemophilia iPhone app got some coverage, as did Bayer's haemophilia research grant to the University of Florida. But you have to pick through the French and Italian news media to find out that Bayer is finally writing checks to people who got AIDS because, in the 1980s, the Cutter Biological unit of Bayer ignored federal law to recruit prisoners, intravenous drug users, and high-risk gay men as donors of the blood Cutter then used to make Factor VIII and IX, the clotting product that haemophiliacs need in order to not bleed to death. Agence France Press reported

    CONTINUE . . .

    Everyone knows that big drug companies, the FDA, the CDC, the U.S. government and corporate media would never lie. Especially when it comes to making huge amounts of money. Right?
     
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    Maybe the reason is simply that they don't want to get the flu? Most of us know someone who has ended up sick after getting the shot.

    Do conspiracies exist? I'm sure that the answer is yes, but there's not one around every corner and under every rock.

    You ought to give Infowars and other conspiracy-theory themed outlets a break. It might help with the paranoia.
     
  8. poncho

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    You said.

    "I noticed that there's no substantive evidence to the article's claim of a conspiracy."

    I gave you just a tiny portion of evidence. Like the Bayer company the FDA the congress and media conspiring to keep the wrongful deaths of thousands of people off the radar in the pursuit of $$$.

    Then you said.

    "You ought to give Infowars and other conspiracy-theory themed outlets a break. It might help with the paranoia."

    Hmmm. Seems like whenever you respond to my posts you always try to turn it around so the discussion centers around me instead of the topic at hand. It's almost as if you are afraid to discuss the topic.

    Does it matter to you that people are injured and die so big companies can profit? Do you figure the numbers of injuries and deaths caused by these big companies are acceptable so long as one of them isn't you? That''s what it sounds like to me.
     
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    You don't get the flu from the vaccine. The vaccine is basically a dead virus. A dead virus can't infect you. You CAN have some mild side effects as your body builds up the immunity to the offending virus (even though the virus is not multiplying in the body, it will still build the immunity to it). Last year was the first year I felt a little achy and run down from the vaccine but it was a far cry from the flu.

    If one gets the flu within 2 weeks of receiving the vaccine, it was not the fault of the vaccine. It takes 2 full weeks to build up an immunity and in some it may take longer. So if you get the shot then 5 days later get the flu, you were exposed to the flu before your body could build an immunity and you go the flu. Not from the vaccine but from someone else.

    A little research into immunology would help a lot of people.
     
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    That makes sense.

    How does the human body process mercury, aluminum, polysorbate 80 and formaldehyde?


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4-X-Xpm240
     
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    This kind of reaction to the shot is what I meant.:)
     
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    I've had the flu. I'd rather have a day of feeling slightly under the weather than to be down for over a week and then have the asthma complications that I always get. Even now, I've had a cold. It's now a sinus infection and triggering my asthma so that I'm probably going to have to go on steroids again to get rid of it. Bleck!!
     
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    Common substances found in vaccines include:

    • Aluminum gels or salts of aluminum which are added as adjuvants to help the vaccine stimulate a better response. Adjuvants help promote an earlier, more potent response, and more persistent immune response to the vaccine.

      See also: "Aluminum in Vaccines: What you should know"[​IMG] [​IMG] [ 579KB / 2 pages] Also available in Spanish[​IMG] [​IMG] [579KB / 2 pages]
    • Antibiotics which are added to some vaccines to prevent the growth of germs (bacteria) during production and storage of the vaccine. No vaccine produced in the United States contains penicillin.
    • Egg protein is found in influenza and yellow fever vaccines, which are prepared using chicken eggs. Ordinarily, persons who are able to eat eggs or egg products safely can receive these vaccines.
    • Formaldehyde is used to inactivate bacterial products for toxoid vaccines, (these are vaccines that use an inactive bacterial toxin to produce immunity.) It is also used to kill unwanted viruses and bacteria that might contaminate the vaccine during production. Most formaldehyde is removed from the vaccine before it is packaged.
    • Monosodium glutamate (MSG) and 2-phenoxy-ethanol which are used as stabilizers in a few vaccines to help the vaccine remain unchanged when the vaccine is exposed to heat, light, acidity, or humidity.
    • Thimerosal is a mercury-containing preservative that is added to vials of vaccine that contain more than one dose to prevent contamination and growth of potentially harmful bacteria.
    Taken from the CDC's website.





    How does the human body process these substances? Will they cause allergic reactions? What happens when these substances are injected into the human body over and over again?
     
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    Julie Gerberding, the head of the CDC, went on CNN's House Call with Dr. Sanjay Gupta to discuss the Hannah Poling case and admitted that vaccines trigger autism in a subset of the population with mitochondrial disorders.

    Watch the interview HERE.
     
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    I read the entire transcript and I don't see one place where she says that vaccines trigger autism - even in the subset of the population. What she says is:

    So, if a child got a fever from the vaccine, it can cause issues that have some characteristics of autism. If that is fact, then it would be true that influenza or even a virus could cause the same issue.

    Additionally, the "study" that showed a link - the ONLY study that showed a link - between vaccines and autism has been shown to be completely fabricated. It was tossed out on it's ear in the medical community.
     
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    Some characteristics of autism? That's a whole nuther debate right there. Since it has been suggested that vaccines might be linked to autism the "medical community" has come up with a whole excuse the term "subset" of autism "like" characteristics.

    It's kind of like the torture debate right after the Abu Ghraib scandal first broke. The government and media made use of a euphemism to make torture more acceptable to the public. And the public bought it. I remember that debate well. I was surprised to say the least that Christians would so easily fall for such word games but we did to the point of calling others all kinds of names who didn't agree with torturing people to get information that is questionable at best.

    In other words the "medical community" is saying it's not autism if it's only like autism. Which medical community are we talking about here? It wouldn't be the same medical community that gets paid to do research for the pharmaceutical industry by the pharmaceutical industry would it?

    That's kind of like the government investigating itself for fraud and corruption. "We've spent million and millions of tax dollars looking into this now folks and guess what? We've come to the conclusion we're all innocent."
     
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    There is no scientific support for a link between vaccines and autism. There is only "suggestion" in the minds of those who don't accept the facts.
     
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    There's the fact that research is done by people that take money from the big pharmaceutical companies and then there's the fact that these vaccines are often times rushed to market with little to no research. Then there's the fact that little to no research has been done between vaccinated vs un vaccinated. So of course there is no "scientific support" for any links.

    Then there's the fact that 100,000 people a year die (1,000,000 every ten years) from taking prescription drugs the FDA has cleared for market. Don't believe it? It's right here on the FDA's own website.

    But these aren't the facts people who talk about facts want to talk about.
     
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    So where are the independent, peer reviewed studies that show a link?
     
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    Exactly! Where are the peer reviewed independent studies?
     
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