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NAPOLITANO: The right to shoot tyrants, not deer

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by poncho, Jan 11, 2013.

  1. poncho

    poncho Well-Known Member

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    The right of the people to keep and bear arms is an extension of the natural right to self-defense and a hallmark of personal sovereignty. It is specifically insulated from governmental interference by the Constitution and has historically been the linchpin of resistance to tyranny. Yet the progressives in both political parties stand ready to use the coercive power of the government to interfere with the exercise of that right by law-abiding persons because of the gross abuse of that right by some crazies in our midst.

    When Thomas Jefferson wrote in the Declaration of Independence that we are endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights, he was marrying the nation at its birth to the ancient principles of the natural law that have animated the Judeo-Christian tradition in the West. Those principles have operated as a brake on all governments that recognize them by enunciating the concept of natural rights.

    As we have been created in the image and likeness of God the Father, we are perfectly free just as He is. Thus, the natural law teaches that our freedoms are pre-political and come from our humanity and not from the government. As our humanity is ultimately divine in origin, the government, even by majority vote, cannot morally take natural rights away from us. A natural right is an area of individual human behavior — like thought, speech, worship, travel, self-defense, privacy, ownership and use of property, consensual personal intimacy — immune from government interference and for the exercise of which we don’t need the government’s permission.

    The essence of humanity is freedom.

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  2. OldRegular

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    All our Constitutional rights are being eroded, not just the right to keep and bear arms. The Federal Government is fast approaching an autocracy and the people are much like the frog in a pot of water that is gradually being heated. Soon it will be too late to hop ouT!
     
  3. poncho

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    Obama Executive Orders on Guns Would Spark Mass Resistance

    As the Obama administration openly vows to use unconstitutional “executive orders” to further infringe on the right to keep and bear arms, gun rights activists, members of the law enforcement community, military personnel and others are pledging to resist. Everything from an armed uprising and nationwide civil disobedience to legal means of resistance like the courts and nullification is being openly discussed online and even in the establishment media.

    “The president is going to act,” pledged Vice President Joe Biden, who is leading an administration task force to further restrict gun rights in the wake of the Newtown massacre. "Executive order, executive action can be taken, we haven't decided what that is yet. But we're compiling it all with the help of the attorney general and all the rest of the cabinet members, as well as legislative action we believe is required."

    The Constitution, of course, reserves all legislative powers to Congress — not to mention the specific prohibition against infringements on gun rights contained in the Second Amendment. But disgraced Attorney General Eric Holder, who is helping develop the “executive action” plot, was caught in the 1990s on video calling for a tax-funded campaign to “brainwash” people against guns. He was also held in criminal contempt of Congress for lying about Operation Fast and Furious, which saw the Justice Department providing thousands of powerful guns to Mexican drug cartels through the ATF.

    Appearing on CNN, Gun Owners of America chief Larry Pratt (pictured) said assaults on the Second Amendment imposed unilaterally by a lawless president would call the legitimacy of the federal government into question. Noting that Obama has already been ruling by decree in realms where he “has no authority” and that Biden is openly discussing “executive action” to deal with firearms, the no-compromise gun rights activist said any such unconstitutional presidential decrees infringing on the Second Amendment would have dire implications.

    "That, I think, changes the game and throws into question the legitimacy of the federal government," Pratt told rabid anti-gun CNN host Piers Morgan, a Brit who has come under fire in recent weeks for his oftentimes disrespectful and hostile attitude toward defenders of the Second Amendment. "I would advise Mr. Obama to consider what happened to [King] George the third when he was doing similar things against the American colonists."

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    Looks like the water may be coming to a boil.
     
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    And this is where obama will call in the UN against American citizens......
     
  5. SovereignMercy

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    Or maybe...

    So truth fails, and he who departs from evil makes himself a prey. Then the LORD saw it, and it displeased Him that there was no justice. He saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor; therefore His own arm brought salvation for Him; and His own righteousness, it sustained Him. For He put on righteousness as a breastplate, and a helmet of salvation on His head; He put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloak. According to their deeds, accordingly He will repay, fury to His adversaries, recompense to His enemies; the coastlands He will fully repay. So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and His glory from the rising of the sun; when the enemy comes in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD will lift up a standard against him. "The Redeemer will come to Zion, and to those who turn from transgression in Jacob," says the LORD. "As for Me," says the LORD, "this is My covenant with them: My Spirit who is upon you, and My words which I have put in your mouth, shall not depart from your mouth, nor from the mouth of your descendants, nor from the mouth of your descendants' descendants," says the LORD, "from this time and forevermore."

    Obama will disappear, Jesus will not, focus on Him and have hope
     
  6. OldRegular

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    The UN is meaningless!
     
  7. Oldtimer

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    Brother, don't be so sure of that.

    For example, do you know what has been omitted by the current administration with regards to the gun control treaty that's currently under consideration by the UN?

    For those in power now, do you see any indicators that they won't use any "tool" available to them to further their agenda? Congress won't do it, write an executive order. Congress won't do it, goven through regs established by federal agencies. Even the Supreme Court is beginning to give weight to international law when considering the validity of domestic laws.

    Brother, don't be so sure of that. If it's God's will that this nation suffer the consequences of her actions, via the UN, there will be no stopping those boots on the ground.
     
  8. just-want-peace

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    Those that believe the "impossibility" of UN boots on our soil are the modern equivalent of Neville Chamberlain & his belief that Hitler was going to satisfy himself with "restraint & negotiation"!
     
  9. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    You are correct - there ain't no way blue berets are going to come to US soil to disarm American citizens. The US is indeed useless and way overrated.

    Just ain't gonna happen. This kind of scaremongering achieves nothing.

    Good post OR.
     
  10. poncho

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    Since the election of Obama, liberals have crafted a right-wing terrorist narrative and have used it against their political enemies. The so-called “rightwing extremist” document produced by the Department of Homeland Security during the Bush administration and subsequently leaked to the media in April of 2009 revealed how the government considers patriot groups a terrorist threat. The DHS has worked closely with the Southern Poverty Law Center and other ideological groups to demonize a wide array of political groups and individuals ostensibly on the right.

    The establishment will continue to exploit the Sandy Hook massacre and other violent incidents as they work in incremental and piecemeal fashion to destroy the Second Amendment and deny their political enemies the right to possess firearms. The government’s secret no-fly and terrorist watchlists will be used to target political enemies.

    So-called gun control is not primarily about protecting children. It is about disarming political enemies. The Democrat party and so-called liberal foundations have effectively corralled what they consider subversive elements on the left – as the destruction of the antiwar and Occupy movements by the establishment show – and the only remaining threat comes from patriot and constitutionalist groups that understand the importance of the Second Amendment and its real purpose – an armed defense against tyranny.

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    During the Bush years I kept telling conservatives that all those anti - terror laws that were being passed would one day be used against us.

    But of course I was deemed crazy to have such an idea back then.

    Does the idea seem so crazy now?
     
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  11. poncho

    poncho Well-Known Member

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    Bump......
     
  12. blackbird

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    But perhaps the man who wears the pink underwear who lives on Pennsylvania Avenue would call up the Federal Army on his own citizens----wait---his own citizens????
     
  13. mont974x4

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    C4K did you notice you said the US was meaningless and way overrated? Nice Freudian slip there my friend.
     
  14. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Whoops. I meant the UN of course - though judging by the comments of many far rightests here many of them world agree with my mistake.

    Hoping your 'Freudian slip' comment was made in jest.
     
  15. mont974x4

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    LOL It was in jest.



    Yes, many of us conservatives see a clear decline in the standing and influence of the US. I would not, yet, say we have reached the inept levels of the UN. This slide started decades ago but has been picking up speed.
     
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