1. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Obama's sequestration will kill over 1,000,000 jobs

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by carpro, Feb 19, 2013.

  1. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2004
    Messages:
    25,823
    Likes Received:
    1,167
    Faith:
    Baptist
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/feb/18/congress-leaves-town-with-layoffs-in-its-wake/

    Pink slips being printed as Congress vacations, defense industry likely to cut thousands of jobs

    Hundreds of Pentagon-related companies large and small are preparing to lay off thousands of employees as Congress takes a recess this week, so far unable to agree on how to undo automatic military spending cuts set to begin March 1.

    BAE Systems Inc., a global giant that provides an array of goods and services for the military, estimates that it will have to lay off as many as 4,000 workers this year, including technicians who work on aircraft, ships and vehicles and who earn an average of $50,000 a year.

    Meanwhile, Ammcon Corp. of Portland, Ore., which makes pipe joints and flanges for aircraft carriers and submarines, says it will have to lay off about 25 percent of its 45 employees if the defense spending cuts begin March 1.

    These and other defense contractors are bracing for automatic, across-the-board spending cuts known as sequestration — which could lead to as many as 1.2 million lost jobs, according to an estimate by Stephen S. Fuller, director of the Center for Regional Analysis at George Mason University.
     
  2. SolaSaint

    SolaSaint Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2009
    Messages:
    2,834
    Likes Received:
    29
    I'm a Federal employee who is facing a possible furlough if this thing comes to pass and I'm OK with helping to fix the spending problem eventhough I will lose 20% of my salary. I'm wondering will Congress be included in the furlough and coughing up 20% of their pay? In the end I have faith in our spinmister in charge that he will let it go up to 28 Feb and then kick the can down the road another few months. This is how the Obama WH does it, and he will make it appear the GOPs fault.
     
  3. Mexdeaf

    Mexdeaf New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2005
    Messages:
    7,051
    Likes Received:
    3
    In one way he is like Reagan- remember how the MSM called him the "teflon president" because none of the supposed scandals of his administration "stuck" to him?

    But strangely I do not hear that nickname being used for Obama.
     
  4. InTheLight

    InTheLight Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2010
    Messages:
    24,988
    Likes Received:
    2,268
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Except it will take the House GOP's cooperation to do this, but yes, I agree this is the likely scenario.
     
  5. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2006
    Messages:
    52,013
    Likes Received:
    3,649
    Faith:
    Baptist
    The house has put forward two different bills that would take care of this sequestration thing. The Senate is sitting on them both. The ball is in their court.
     
  6. church mouse guy

    church mouse guy Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    May 23, 2002
    Messages:
    22,050
    Likes Received:
    1,857
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Hannity on the radio yesterday and Rush on the radio today played audio of Obama from 2011 threatening to veto any attempt to repeal the sequester, or automatic across-the-board budget cuts, as everyone knows by now.

    Of course, the GOP tried during the election to point out the disaster both economically and militarily if the sequester occurred. Remember how the White House refused to send out notices (60-day warnings) as required by law that defense plant workers would lose their jobs at the end of the year?

    YouTube has a than 1 1/2 minute clip of Obama then:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqD2h7e_MLg

    Here is a less than 1 minute clip on the same subject:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kRHuTzl37g

    The Democrats really don't want to cut spending one penny and they want to raise taxes some more in my opinion.
     
  7. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2004
    Messages:
    25,823
    Likes Received:
    1,167
    Faith:
    Baptist
    For instance, referring to the sequestration he asked for, he said this in November 2011:


    Now he's all gloom and doom if it does.

    He gets a complete pass on his duplicity by the media.
     
  8. Crabtownboy

    Crabtownboy Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2008
    Messages:
    18,441
    Likes Received:
    259
    Faith:
    Baptist
    The problem is it is not Obama's. It is Boehner's and the GOP's sequester ... and the majority of the American public realize this and know where to place the blame ... squarely in the lap of the GOP. The GOP keeps trying and keeps shooting themselves in their own feet.

     
  9. Mexdeaf

    Mexdeaf New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2005
    Messages:
    7,051
    Likes Received:
    3
    The problem isn't the sequester, the problem is that we have a President who thinks he is the second coming of Marie Antionette.
     
  10. Crabtownboy

    Crabtownboy Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2008
    Messages:
    18,441
    Likes Received:
    259
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Please give me a link to that. It would be most interesting reading .... oh, maybe this is simply your opinion. Which is it, information on the "net" of opinion? :tongue3:
     
  11. InTheLight

    InTheLight Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2010
    Messages:
    24,988
    Likes Received:
    2,268
    Faith:
    Baptist
  12. Mexdeaf

    Mexdeaf New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2005
    Messages:
    7,051
    Likes Received:
    3
    Not at all.
     
  13. church mouse guy

    church mouse guy Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    May 23, 2002
    Messages:
    22,050
    Likes Received:
    1,857
    Faith:
    Baptist
    In 2011, Obama said that he would veto any attempt to halt the sequester. It was a political issue in the campaign of 2012. If the Democrats did not like the idea, why did Obama say that there were no exit ramps from automatic spending cuts? Once Obama took the lead by promising a veto, it was his idea publically and we do not know what the Democrats were saying behind closed doors.

    No, Obama insisted that the sequester would take place. He owns it, lock, stock, and barrel.
     
  14. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2004
    Messages:
    25,823
    Likes Received:
    1,167
    Faith:
    Baptist
    In the face of reality, everyone here expects you to keep your head... well...in the sand.

    Sequestration? Obama owns it. No question.
     
  15. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2004
    Messages:
    25,823
    Likes Received:
    1,167
    Faith:
    Baptist
    From your source:

    End of discussion.
     
  16. church mouse guy

    church mouse guy Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    May 23, 2002
    Messages:
    22,050
    Likes Received:
    1,857
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Except for the military cuts, no one cares about the other cuts. I suspect the only thing that got the Democrats moving was that a lot of union defense plant jobs will be laid off.

    They used to say that you can't have guns and butter but when Nixon cut the money loose from gold the Federal Reserve used their unconstitutional power to print money to pay government borrowing and Johnson during Viet Nam tried to give us both guns and butter--a war and high domestic consumption.

    The point is that we need a strong military because the Arab Spring was a new jihad that must be contained militarily at once. It is time to cut domestic spending. Things like Big Bird can do very well without a penny of government spending. Cuts in domestic spending should be good for the economy.

    Here in Indianapolis about a year ago downtown on the Circle (the center of Indianapolis) the Colombia Club, an exclusive luxury club originally started to support the presidential candidacy of Benjamin Harrison, got federal money for tuck-pointing of the ornate limestone façade of the private club. This is because they are on the historic register but they qualified for a grant from the federal government for exterior repairs and they accepted the money even though they are some of the richest people in America that belong to that club.
     
    #16 church mouse guy, Feb 21, 2013
    Last edited by a moderator: Feb 21, 2013
  17. OldRegular

    OldRegular Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2004
    Messages:
    22,678
    Likes Received:
    64
    I realize that you are a rabid-leftist-Obama-supporter Crabby but that is BS and you know it. The sequester was Obama's idea and the Republicans stupidly bought into it but at least they are getting a reduction on spending. Obama has lied about the sequester ever since it was passed. In 2011 he threatened to veto any attempt to change the sequester now he is acting as if disaster will strike the nation on March 1. However, it should be understood that the Federal Budget for FY 2013 is higher than that of 2012 even with the sequester so all the doom and gloom by motor mouth Obama is sheer hypocrisy.

    Obama is a liar and a blasphemer and a killer of the unborn. I sometimes wonder if God is using this liar, blasphemer, and killer of the unborn to bring judgment on this country for the slaughter of 55,000,000 million unborn children and its endorsement of homosexual perversion.
     
    #17 OldRegular, Feb 21, 2013
    Last edited by a moderator: Feb 21, 2013
  18. just-want-peace

    just-want-peace Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2002
    Messages:
    7,727
    Likes Received:
    873
    Faith:
    Baptist

    IMHO, your conclusion is dead-on!
    And, just like the Assyrians of old to Judah, I believe God is simply letting the ZERO have his way as judgment to this nation.
     
Loading...