The proof is in the pudding.

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something else to think about is that the DEATH was not physical DEATH that was passed BUT SOUL DEATH

 

Not so. It was physcial death because with out the fruit from the tree of life we die. The spirit of man never dies if it did he could never be held responsible for the sins of the body. Which it would have had no part in.
MB

 

The SOUL that sins shall DIE(does not say physical death says SOUL DEATH

Man was already going to die physically--that is why the tree of life was there--the part of man that was never gonna die was the SOUL--until he ate of the other tree--God removed man from the garden so he could NOT eat of the tree of life--why--because man would never die physically if he ate of the tree of life.it means in Dieing adam SURELY DIED--not just physically BUT SOUL also--this body is not us--just a house we live in:jesus::jesus:

 

Actually Adam sin kicked us out of the Garden away from the tree of life for our body to start our surely will die our condemnation of the body.

Adam still had conversation with God after the fall.

Now the soul that sins is the soul that will die and we are all sinners in need of Jesus, and praise God that He came to save sinners so repent and live.

1 Peter 1:9
for you are receiving the end result of your faith, the salvation of your souls.

 

If man's spirit is dead as you claim. Not only he cannot hear or see but he also cannot sin. Think about how many times I've been told by Calvinist that a dead man can't do anything because he is dead . If man is dead as you say, he isn't responsible for the actions he isn't consciously aware of.
MB

 

he is DEAD at physical death--body,soul,spirit=DEAD--that's why there was a Resurrection

 

Matthew 17
New International Version (NIV)
The Transfiguration

17 After six days Jesus took with him Peter, James and John the brother of James, and led them up a high mountain by themselves. 2 There he was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and his clothes became as white as the light. 3 Just then there appeared before them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus.

4 Peter said to Jesus, “Lord, it is good for us to be here. If you wish, I will put up three shelters—one for you, one for Moses and one for Elijah.”

5 While he was still speaking, a bright cloud covered them, and a voice from the cloud said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased. Listen to him!”

6 When the disciples heard this, they fell facedown to the ground, terrified. 7 But Jesus came and touched them. “Get up,” he said. “Don’t be afraid.” 8 When they looked up, they saw no one except Jesus.

9 As they were coming down the mountain, Jesus instructed them, “Don’t tell anyone what you have seen, until the Son of Man has been raised from the dead.”

10 The disciples asked him, “Why then do the teachers of the law say that Elijah must come first?”

11 Jesus replied, “To be sure, Elijah comes and will restore all things. 12 But I tell you, Elijah has already come, and they did not recognize him, but have done to him everything they wished. In the same way the Son of Man is going to suffer at their hands.” 13 Then the disciples understood that he was talking to them about John the Baptist.

Was Moses already resurrected from the dead?

Sometime we spend more time on the mountain top with those who have already been resurrected from the dead because of Jesus instead in the valley with people who need Jesus to do the same for them

 

Really? Then how come my Bible say's;
Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Nothing you've said here makes any sense. If man's spirit dies so does the man. It's the spirit of man that quickens his flesh. His flesh cannot live with out the spirit. It's true the Bible say's "the soul that sinneth shall die" but it never said that to Adam. He was told he would die and he did. It was in future tense, not right away because, he would have already been dead while God was questioning him.
MB

 

How did Elijah, die, where is Moses buried?

Yes

More than two

No, with the vision He was talking to them transfigured already there

No i do not see it as a future event but it actually happened Jesus talked to Moses and Elijah

A vision is not always of a future event.

What I do know I didn't see Abraham in the Transfiguration we receive the Holy Spirit in our life time, Abraham didn't receive the promise in His lifetime, those who died in faith is in His bosom are asleep and will wake up in His arms.

Where is Abraham's bosom?

We see everything happening in time, is there a time in heaven or is it eternal