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Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by SolaSaint, Apr 26, 2013.

  1. SolaSaint

    SolaSaint Well-Known Member

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    With the Obama administration it looks like buisness as usual in the abortion industry. He unapologetically indorsed our country's biggest abortion provider Planned Parenthood (PP) today in Texas. Obama is willfully looking right past the Gosnell murders and claiming PP is so important to womens health because they provide cancer screenings. He never mentioned the word "abortion" today when that is what PP spends more funds on than anything else.

    America is getting lied to by our President and we need to do something about it. What can you do--support your local Pregnancy Resource Center (PRC). Most every mid sized city in America has one. You can find them in the phone book or on the Internet. They almost always depend upon donations from churches and pro-lifers. If you haven't already given to a local PRC, I challenge you to do so to help fight Mr. Obama's war on life.

    God Bless
     
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    What is your budget breakdown source for Planned Parenthood concerning monies allotted to the different services? I've done a brief search but could not find it.
     
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    Wikipedia, if you care to use as fairly accurate, says that 35% of Planned Parenthood's budget is for contraceptives, and 3% is for abortions. I think you might have it backwards SoloSaint.
     
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    Planned parenthood is nothing but an abortion mill. It is their primary reason for existence. And whatever spin the extreme far left wants to put on their figures matters not. One single child a day slaughtered in the womb by that organization from hell should mean that Christians need to condemn it. period. There has to be a special place in hell for these people.
     
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    In 2010, if a pregnant woman walked into a Planned Parenthood clinic, she was 392 times more likely to receive an abortion than an adoption referral.

    In that year, PPFA performed 329,445 abortions while providing only 841
    adoption referrals. According to Planned Parenthood’s most recent Service
    Fact Sheet, out of total services for pregnant women (adoption referrals, prenatal clients, abortion), abortion made up approximately 91 percent of
    services.

    Planned Parenthood reports its health services data in a manipulated fashion to underemphasize abortion-related services. PPFA states that abortion makes up approximately “3% of total services.” However, in 2011, National Public Radio clarified that a more accurate percentage of Planned
    Parenthood clients who have an abortion would be ten percent.

    While Planned Parenthood downplays its abortion statistics, it highlights its non-abortion services often by counting service to one client for several items as separate services.

    Such services as cervical cancer screenings and pap smears are laudable. However, because the count is manipulated the reporting, PPFA’s service numbers are not accurate and instead deliberately downplay abortion
    services.

    While Planned Parenthood holds non-profit status, they are able to pull in a hefty profit each year. In the latest annual report, Planned Parenthood received $487.4 million in combined federal, state and local government grants and contracts, yet had an excess of revenue over expenses of $18.5
    million.

    http://downloads.frcaction.org/EF/EF11D15.pdf
     
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    I agree Rev, but lets get our facts straight if we are going to inform each other and then convince anyone else. I found from the Washington Post a pie chart that agrees that 3% is for abortions, 35% contraceptives(which in my opinion is the same), STD's and treatment is also 35%, cancer screens at 16%, and other services at 11%. To say that "Planned Parenthood spends more on abortion than anything else", is simply a false statement no matter how we feel about it.
     
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    I didn't say that. And the figures are a spin. Like liberals do to cook the books the like to double count things when it is convenient.

    Anyway what I said is that their primary means of existence is abortion. They make money on abortion. They do not give it away.
     
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    You are right Rev, my post was to the OP, I should of clarified. I would also agree that both parties spin everything they get their hands on. I guess my point is that abortion will not be stopped by Republicans or Democrats, but by making disciples.
     
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    And my position is that we should be engaged in both not just one. It is not an either or proposition.
     
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    Aren’t Abortions only a small Percentage of the Services Provided by Planned Parenthood?

    While Planned Parenthood officials claim that abortions constitute only 3% percent of their services, this figure is misleading. Out of the 10.5 million individual services they provided in 2006, 289,750 were abortions—roughly 3%. But this figure fails to account for the fact that a woman visiting Planned Parenthood for an abortion will receive several services—from a pregnancy test to some manner of counseling to the abortion itself—each of which is counted separately. A closer look at Planned Parenthood’s client and income numbers shows that the abortion figure is actually three times what they claim. Of 3.1 million Planned Parenthood clients in 2006, 9% got abortions. Moreover, abortion accounts for at least a third of Planned Parenthood’s total income from clinic services.

    Source: Planned Parenthood Federation of America. Planned Parenthood Federation of America 2006-2007 Annual Report. http://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/AR_2007_vFinal.pdf.

    Read more: Planned Parenthood - Abortion Facts http://www.whyprolife.com/planned-parenthood/#ixzz2RdQXz3y8


    http://www.whyprolife.com/planned-parenthood/
     
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    NPR fact checks, debunks Planned Parenthood’s “3% of all services are for abortion” lie



    Rovner: Well, the conflict is really that PP keeps its statistics according to the percent of those services that are provided, not according to how many people get what. So it turns out that there are – that indeed, abortions are 3% of the services provided, although – and that was what, I think, Sarah Stoesz from PP kind of misspoke when she said it was 3% of patients who come in get abortions.

    It is actually a little bit closer to the 10% that Marjorie Dannenfesler suggested, because there are about 3 million patients who come in. There are about 300,000 abortions provided.

    Now, you can’t really divide that because that’s not how they keep their statistics. But indeed, that – those are the actual statistics. Three million patients, 300,000 abortions, but you have to contrast that to more than a million pregnancy tests and all kinds of other services provided. So indeed, it’s a small amount in terms of percentage of services provided.

    Conan: And the difference might be that the same woman who later received an abortion also got a pregnancy test and counseling and some other services.

    Rovner: Absolutely. So many of those patients are getting more than one services and who – many of the patients who get an abortion are probably getting other services as well.
     
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    The law will never stop abortions. Abortion is a matter of the heart, being selfish enough to kill. Jesus gave us the example of adultery. A man can walk around all day and lust in his heart and never break the law. Jesus said if adultery is in your heart you have already broken that law. The law cannot cure the heart, only Jesus can. He said go and make disciples, not go and change laws.
     
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    oh well let's bring all laws to an end. Backwoods theology at best.
     
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    I've heard lots of spin on the numbers, so who knowswho is truthful. One thing you have to consider is how much an abortion costs compared to handing our a condom or scanning for cancer. I've heard it reported that abortion monies make up the largest part of their budget. I will dig into it.
     
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    Planned Parenthood performs around 300,000 abortions a year, at about $1000 an abortion that is 300M in funds they use for abortions. Now I have no idea what they charge for abortions but I'll assume it is close to $1000. If this is true that makes up 1/3 of their total revenues. That is different than the 3% everyone is claiming. I guess if they hand out 30 condoms and perform one abortion that is considered 3% of services. Spin it like you want, but Planned Parenthood is still in the baby killing biz and our Prez loves it. What a sick man.
     
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    From PP's website:

     
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    Thanks Ann, so it still shows much more than 3 or 10% of PPs budget goes for abortion services. I would estimate 25-30%. However Obama never mentioned this yesterday when praising their fight against pro-lifers.
     
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    PP is not a reliable source for what they are doing. Liberals with their socialist agenda lie worse than Bagdad Bob.
     
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    I don't think we will find the real numbers. Doesn't make a difference though, it's still killing from a selfish heart.
     
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    I still gringe when I hear the audio clip of Obama "I don't want my daughters punished with a baby" Yet we are punished with him in the WH. GO FIGURE
     
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