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Featured BB Member for President!

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Salty, Apr 30, 2013.

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  1. Yes, he would make an excellent POTUS

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  2. Yes, not saying he would be great, but better than any politician

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  3. Yes, that way we would find out more about him

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  4. If he runs, I would volunteer to manage his campaign

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  5. If he runs, I would support him with $$$

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  6. He has the best answers for this country

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  7. If he runs, I would run for Congress on the same party line

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  8. He would be no different than anyone else

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  9. ABP - Anybody But Poncho

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  10. Other answer

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  1. Salty

    Salty 20,000 Posts Club
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    I would like to nominiate Poncho for POTUS

    He often informs us of the action that should be taken by this country.
    Therefore, if he led us, would we see real change?

    The poll is mulitple choice
     
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  2. poncho

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    You don't want me as POTUS Salty. You want another Goldman Sachs/Monsanto man like Obama or Romney. In other words another corporatist pretending to be looking out for you.

    If I were POTUS though I would do like Iceland did. Instead of bailing out the criminals that ruined our economy and giving them more power to steal our wealth I would prosecute them and tell the IMF to go jump off the fiscal cliff congress and the private central bankers created. Right after I secured our borders, of course.

    What would you do about it Salty? I know, you'd roll your eyes and do your best to insult me while I did the right thing for the country.

    How to instantly tell who's evil vs. good: the philosophy of 'control' vs. 'empowerment'

    I get this question all the time from readers: How can we know whom to believe? Who's really telling the truth? Which person should I support for political office at the next election?

    What if I told you there is an incredibly simple way to tell not only who's good and who's bad, but also how to tell who is pushing absolute evil onto our world?

    This method is remarkably accurate, and you can use it right now to assess almost anyone. (like me and ole Salty, he even said himself that I try to empower people. Evidently he detests that about me elsewise he wouldn't be openly posting personal attacks like this poll against me but I digress ; )

    It all starts with understanding the spectrum of control vs. empowerment.

    CONTINUE . . .

    Yeah I get it Salty. Why would you want to be empowered by the likes of me when you can have your choice of people that want to control others . . . in your name, for your safety and "national security"? I know this isn't a valid answer because it doesn't fit neatly into your false left vs right paradigm but it's the only answer you'll get from me.
     
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  3. Salty

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    First of all- I don't know if I would even get elected.
    You see, I have run for public office. (State Assembly) I attended a debate, sponsored by Syracuse University. A SU student asked me what I would do about helping students to pay for college tuition. I told him that it is NOT the governments job to send you to college. He could either drop out of school for a semester to work and save up some money. (if money is that big of a problem, he should not be attending SU as costs exceeded $50 grand a year) I also recommended he join the Army and then qualify for the GI Bill. - Do you think I got his vote?:rolleyes:
    What I am saying is that I will tell it like it is.
    BTW, NO, I did not run as a Republican

    Poncho, I have a valid question for you
    But I will make this statement first.
    You do make many posts about politics and news (in fact those are the only forums you post in)
    You have very strong opinions on many issues.
    Some would even say you go to the extreme at times.

    So here are my questions:
    1) have you ever run for political office
    2) are you actively involved in a political party
    3) would you consider running for public office in the near future - if so level of govt would you consider.
    4) (optional) What political party are you a member of
     
  4. poncho

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    My political mission is to wake people up to the total corruption in government today, Not pussy foot around inside the false left vs right paradigm. That's way more important today than tooting my horn by saying I'm better than you because I ran for office and you didn't. Once you climb out of the false lefties vs eighties paradigm there ain't no going back. I can't make my mind work like hour's anymore. Radical huh? That's what the British said about George Washington and Thomas Jefferson. I'm typing this on my phone so if I misspell words or leave some out you'll just have to fill in the blanks.
     
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  5. Salty

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    The Ponch would make a GREAT POLITICIAN. He never answered my question.
     
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    Sure I did you just don't understand it. I base my answers like I do my questions. In reality not the false left vs right paradigm. How could you ever hope to understand my answers when you can't get beyond the false media created reality you love so much?
     
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    You seem to be obssesed with accusisng people of the "false left vs right paradigm."

    As I said before, you dont really know or understand me.
     
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    I understand the game you're playing. You keep trying to paint me as "bad Christian" because I refuse to be like you and a lot of others here that still believe a totally corrupt system is going to be made better by voting for another globalist politician. As I said before you ain't fooling me. You don't want to debate the facts with me so you resort to painting me as this or that. IMHO that's the coward's way.
     
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    I would not vote for this person as president. Based on his posts, his anger problem and hostile attitude would would be detrimental to any social interaction.
     
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    I remember you. You're the "guilty until proven innocent" in the USA! USA! USA! Hooah! Guy from another thread right? You wouldn't vote for me because I still believe in due process instead of trial by corporate media,
     
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    You all don't want a president that would protect your liberties. You'd rather have one that knows how to manipulate your emotions and play on your fears while promising you safety and taking power away from the "other side".
     
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    Not for President or dog catcher. This is an example of someone who does a lot of copy/paste with no understanding or practical experience. From his/her posts, I would say the person has never run for political office or been involved in the inner workings of the two major parties or a third party.

    The only poster I know of for sure that has actually been involved in the political process is Salty, beyond voting. Attending the Constitutional Party National Convention last year was an eye opener. Political causes are only as good as the character of the people promoting them. If one is more interested in idle chit chat and having a good time than electing people for a set of Constitutional principles, then nothing will ever get accomplished. When faith and standards are low, fourth rate candidates get nominated for President. In that case, they will always remain a third party.

    The only viable option now given the political reality is working within the two major parties, and working for change from within. At the same time, one could work to bring some of the third parties into the say Republican Party to effect a gradual but decisive change. That is the way it works.

    There is no room for laziness or loud mouths that accomplish nothing, which is exactly what the subject of this thread is.
     
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    I'm sure there are those he'd get along with...

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    Good post.
     
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    Or this.......................

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    Actually, I'm the GAL from the other thread. I never said I didn't believe in due process.

    I agree that both main political parties are just different sides to the same coin, but that doesn't mean we should do nothing but criticize and condemn all the time. We have a duty as Christians to pray for our politicians. We also have a civic right and duty to get involved and try to make this a better country.

    We also need to remember that our ultimate goal is to win the lost, not fight the government.
     
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    You didn't have to say it. Your anger filled post about the suspect and his mother told the whole story. The media played on your emotions and you fell for it hook line and sinker.

    No trials or juries for "terrorists". Maybe you should read some of the government reports that accuse you of being a terrorist threat. You are guilty of being a right wing christian aren't you? So why are you helping the government to take away your rights?

    I am involved. I inform people and wake them up. People like Salty, SN and Arbo have lost their credibility. Oh there's still a few people here that listen to them but look at what they've posted. Does it look like grown up stuff?

    Take Arbo for example. He or she whatever can't discredit the information so he/she can only descend into utter ridiculousness like he/she's been taught by the media. His/her last posts are perfect examples.

    SN? Well he's a special self appointed BB warrior. He thinks it's his job to defend the constitution by taking orders from those who are destroying it and getting rid of any dissenters here like me. He'll stalk posters that disagree with him from thread to thread using the same hate filled tactics he constantly accuses others of.

    Poor soul he's been reduced to being a mean spirited little troll that thinks he can get people banned just by stalking them around and hurling insults at them. Yeah he's soooo credible. He hates me because I told him the truth he doesn't want to hear. That's why I'd never make a good politician. They only tell ya lies you want to hear.

    That's the kind SN likes best.

    Then there's Salty. He can't discredit the information I post so he seeks to discredit me with threads like this. It's a sign of desperation on his part but I suppose he has to try.

    It's an old trick. It's called attack the messenger. When you can't discredit the information discredit the one that delivers it. It's a low cowardly debate tactic but hey when you can't discredit the info what else can you do? Admit you've been wrong all those years and repent?

    Not these guys. They just keep chewing the same old bone.:laugh:
     
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    Funny, you mention six people that are wrong and you are right. You have never served, you have never been involved in the political process, and have accomplished nothing but bring out the worst in people. You are not uplifting nor inspiring. You are basically a loud mouth slob that has no respect for anyone else's beliefs. Oh you would make the perfect politician, because you speak something you are not.

    If you cared about what you preach, there would be action and less talk. You are truly a pathetic person.
     
  19. Salty

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    Amen and amen
    Only one life twill soon be past
    Only whats done for Christ will last
     
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    Poncho, I don't understand why you accuse me of falling hook, line, and sinker for the media. The suspects ADMITTED to being the bombers, and they shot at law enforcement. How can they be anything BUT guilty?

    The mother was quoted and her own words tell what kind of a person she is. Are you saying the media is giving us "fake" footage of another person? Are you saying media footage of the shootout was made by actors trying to con us all to believe a lie? That seems a little far fetched, don't ya think?
     
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