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DHK · May 8, 2013

In response to the OP in the other thread on True Christianity Walter stated:

Would you also never kiss a photo of one of your loved ones? Or would you consider that an exception to what is being called 'idolatry'?
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The answer was no, by most non-Catholics.
In doing some other unrelated research I came across this article on St. Anne:

[FONT=&quot]Saint Anne is presenting a fruit to Jesus. It is not simply a treat from a grandmother to her grandson; it is a marvellous symbol of his mission as Redeemer and Saviour of humanity. It is not the fruit of death like the fruit that Adam and Eve ate, but it is a fruit of LIFE, erasing original sin.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot]http://www.shrinesaintanne.org/eng/5_1_11_guided_tour.htm[/FONT] [/FONT]
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The message here: St Anne takes away original sin.
What heresy is this that the RCC teaches.
Furthermore, what perfect picture of idolatry is this, in that Catholics from all over the world come to this shrine and bow done before "the grandmother of God" asking her also for salvation. It is heretical.

Yeshua1 · May 8, 2013

DHK said: ↑

In response to the OP in the other thread on True Christianity Walter stated:
The answer was no, by most non-Catholics.
In doing some other unrelated research I came across this article on St. Anne:

The message here: St Anne takes away original sin.
What heresy is this that the RCC teaches.
Furthermore, what perfect picture of idolatry is this, in that Catholics from all over the world come to this shrine and bow done before "the grandmother of God" asking her also for salvation. It is heretical.
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Didn't the pope, when he was shot, end of giving thanks to mary for intervening to save his life, and kissed her portraint and 'venerated' her?

BobRyan · May 8, 2013

Catholic Digest has an interesting article on this subject.

[FONT=&quot]Cath Digest 9/1993 pg 129[/FONT]
Question:
“My husband has been transferred to Japan and we have been here in Hiroshima for about two months. On a site seeing tour the Japanese guide brought me to a Buddhist shrine. There were statues of Buddha everywhere. The guide told me they represented different aspects of life and that the people offer food to the Buddhas and ask for Favors. It made me think of Our Catholic praying to the saints and wonder whether they have anything like the Ten Commandments to guide them.

There were fountains at the gate where pious visitors washed their hands before entering the shrine grounds. Could this be the same as our holy water?”

Ans:
“Very probably the physical washing signifies some kind of spiritual cleansing, AS it does with Us! Some Muslims say prayers on rosarylike beads Just as We do, so there is no copyright enforced on prayerful customs among the great world religions. The Pagan Romans prayed, each family to its Own household gods, JUST as we do to our patron saints. In Old Testament times the gentile had local gods for their town or country, and our Christian Saints eventually supplanted Them!

The Hebrews, of Course, had the mission of Wiping Out such heathen worship with the worship of the one true God, and while they have always had great respect for spiritual heroes, they Never set up any of their own race as substitutes for the local pagan gods!!
They had no need to make distinctions between praying TO the saints for their intercession with god and total adoration of God as the source of everything, as we must!

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Whether you agree with Catholic Digest or not - it is interesting to see how they view this subject.

in Christ,

Bob

BobRyan · May 8, 2013

I differ with Catholics on this next point - because I believe the Bible teaches soul sleep in 1Thess 4 and in John 11. Not sure why others do not agree with the Catholic church on this next point.
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958 Communion with the dead. "In full consciousness of this communion of the whole Mystical Body of Jesus Christ, the Church in its pilgrim members, from the very earliest days of the Christian religion, has honored with great respect the memory of the dead; and 'because it is a holy and a wholesome thought to pray for the dead that they may be loosed from their sins' she offers her suffrages for them."500 Our prayer for them is capable not only of helping them, but also of making their intercession for us effective.

WestminsterMan · May 9, 2013

BobRyan said: ↑

I differ with Catholics on this next point - because I believe the Bible teaches soul sleep in 1Thess 4 and in John 11. Not sure why others do not agree with the Catholic church on this next point.
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958 Communion with the dead. "In full consciousness of this communion of the whole Mystical Body of Jesus Christ, the Church in its pilgrim members, from the very earliest days of the Christian religion, has honored with great respect the memory of the dead; and 'because it is a holy and a wholesome thought to pray for the dead that they may be loosed from their sins' she offers her suffrages for them."500 Our prayer for them is capable not only of helping them, but also of making their intercession for us effective.
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They don't agree because the word "Catholic" automatically shuts them down - BEFORE their brain can actually do its work. It is a shame, but it is reality. Of course it's not just the word "Catholic" but other words like "SDA" or "Jehova's Witness" or "Muslum" or a host of other words that work toward this effect.

WM

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