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Featured Erwin Lutzer a false teacher?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by evangelist6589, May 30, 2013.

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    http://www.defendingthegospel.org/index.htm

    I love Lutzer but I do know that his view on salvation is much different than that of John MacArthur, and probably a reason why he never gets invited to any of MacArthurs conferences. I am not sure who is right and who is wrong regarding the doctrine from the Bible as both make good arguments from the scriptures. Frankly its not works that gains one salvation which Lutzer agrees. However Lutzer says that one can make a profession of faith, and live like a devil and still be in heaven, they just wont "inherit" heaven, but they will be there.....
     
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    Anyone who gives that knucklehead and credibility has issues.
     
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    Without resorting to slander about the author, which is unnecessary, I'd say there are good arguments from both sides of the issue.

    In addition all preachers have made some statements that could be held against them and that they may be ashamed of. These need to be clarified and adjusted to Scriptural truth.

    It looks to me this guy is simply trying to sell some books. I don't know of any preacher who couldn't be nit-picked on every word spoken. Context is also important.

    - Blessings
     
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    He's a great man of God. You need to try reading "Who are you to Judge."
     
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    I agree every preacher can be nit picked and certainly those in the Lordship camp love to do this and then separate from people because of it.
     
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    Wait were you referring to Lutzer or the author of that website?
     
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    First you posted this on a forum. Second going after great men of God this way under the title of "The Lying promise" does nothing to prove he is a "great man of God.

    I think the better question is "Who is he to judge?" If it must be asked.
     
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    The author of the website writing a book attacking great men of God.
     
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    Really? Prove that everyone in that camp do that.
     
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    Where did he say everyone?

    If he offered proof you'd come back with something snide to say. That's you. Incessantly you.

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    evangelist6589 -- I don't think you'll find engaging with this 'rev' profitable.
     
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    So here is an example of this "great man of God's" work. Imposing a passage of scripture on his work as "but it is likely based loosely on a verse" is not an honest way to deal with anything he has said. If you cannot fully support the context in which he said something maybe you should not write a book about it.
     
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    You are very defensive. I love Lutzer but was just curious on his views on the topic, and you have yet to address them.

    Question:

    Have you read the books Your Eternal reward and How you can be sure you will spend eternity with God?
     
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    Really? That is it? You call me defensive when your man has misrepresented Lutzer?

    The very next paragraph he says:


    This is an out right false accusation. He takes a passage that he, himself says he did not get from Lutzer and assumes that Lutzer bases a comment on and imposes what he believes Lutzer "seems" to be saying.

    I am dealing with your man's "open letter" found here http://www.defendingthegospel.org/letters/lutzer.htm

    The title of the thread is questioning whether Lutzer is a false teacher. Then you use someone who has intentionally dealt with Lutzer dishonestly.

    Shame on him and shame on you.
     
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    My man?? My Man??? My man??? I have nothing to do with that man I just saw some merit in his claims because I have READ THE BOOKS. I love Lutzer.


     
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    Deal with his false claim against Lutzer.
     
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    Question:

    Have you read the books Your Eternal reward and How you can be sure you will spend eternity with God?
     
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    Question:

    Have you read the books Your Eternal reward and How you can be sure you will spend eternity with God?
     
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    So you cannot deal with it?
     
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    Rev we are not on the same page.

    Lutzer says in one of his books that one may live like the devil yet enter but not inherit heaven. How do you deal with that?
     
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    So you do not want to deal with the misrepresentations given in the open letter by the author of the op that I have presented in this thread in clear context?
     
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