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convicted1 · Jun 28, 2013

I was doing some researching, and I came across something that, after reading, seemed eerily similiar to what's get "broadcast" on here:

The Bulgarian Heresy:

In the 10th century, there arose in Bulgaria a gnostic heresy credited to a priest by the name of Bogomil. The beliefs of the Bogomils, as they were called, were adoptionist, meaning that they considered Jesus to have been "adopted" by God at the time of his baptism, but did not consider him to be a part of a trinity. Neither did they consider Mary in any way the mother of God.

Simplicity and strict adherence characterized their practices, with priests elected from their own groups and congregations meeting at homes rather than churches. Infant baptism was not practiced, marriage was not considered a sacrament, and saints were considered false idols.

The heresy had a strong Manichean flavor to it. They believed that God had two sons, Michael and Satan. Satan created the material world and attempted to create Adam, but was unable to create a soul. God added the soul to Adam, but mankind was bound in service to Satan. Michael came to earth in the form of the holy spirit, which entered into Jesus. As Christ, he broke the original agreement which bound mankind to Satan. But it was Satan who orchestrated the crucifixion, and he is still working to recapture mankind by means of the mainstream churches.

The basic ideas of this Bulgarian heresy spread rapidly west, through northern Italy to Southern France. There, the believers called themselves Cathars, from the Greek word meaning pure. Others called them Albigensians, after the town of Albi, or Bougres, for Bulgarians. This last name is the source of the word bugger, due to accusations of sodomy.

Even stricter than the Bogomils, the Cathars attempted to live simple, exemplary lives, with the most serious believers refraining from sex and other physical pleasures. Many adopted strict veganism. They had only one sacrament, the consolamentum, which was something of a last rites in which sin was removed.

The Cathars believed that the God of the old testament was actually Satan, and that he was responsible for the creation of the material world. Jesus was therefore purely spirit (Docetism), since he would have been tainted if he had had a real body. By purity of living, anyone could cast off the physical body and awaken in heaven. The impure were doomed to rebirth into this physical world. One interesting side effect of this belief was that women were treated as equal to men, since we have all been men or women at some time in our past lives.

The Bogomils and the Cathars were harshly persecuted by the Orthodox church in the east and the Catholic church in the west. By the 14th century, the Bulgarians were absorbed by the Islamic Ottoman Empire, and the Cathars were virtually eliminated by Crusades and the Inquisition. They had laid the foundations, however, for the Reformation.
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Now, I am not saying all of this is being promoted, but that which I bolded seems to be eerily akin to something being espouse on here.

http://webspace.ship.edu/cgboer/heresies.html

Gregory Perry Sr. · Jun 28, 2013

Cry Aloud....Spare NOT!!

convicted1 said: ↑

I was doing some researching, and I came across something that, after reading, seemed eerily similiar to what's get "broadcast" on here:

Now, I am not saying all of this is being promoted, but that which I bolded seems to be eerily akin to something being espouse on here.

http://webspace.ship.edu/cgboer/heresies.html
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Brother...that is some seriously weird stuff! If there is somebody on here spouting that kind of heresy (and that is SERIOUSLY what it is)...you need to be shouting it from the rooftops and NAMING NAMES. At the very least, report it to the Mods if they don't already know about it. There are spiritual babes here that could get sucked into that stuff.

Bro.Greg:saint:

convicted1 · Jun 28, 2013

Gregory Perry Sr. said: ↑

Brother...that is some seriously weird stuff! If there is somebody on here spouting that kind of heresy (and that is SERIOUSLY what it is)...you need to be shouting it from the rooftops and NAMING NAMES. At the very least, report it to the Mods if they don't already know about it. There are spiritual babes here that could get sucked into that stuff.

Bro.Greg:saint:
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It's been stated that God was "satan", and that Micheal was Jesus, no?

DrJamesAch · Jun 28, 2013

convicted1 said: ↑

I was doing some researching, and I came across something that, after reading, seemed eerily similiar to what's get "broadcast" on here:

Now, I am not saying all of this is being promoted, but that which I bolded seems to be eerily akin to something being espouse on here.

http://webspace.ship.edu/cgboer/heresies.html
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Not all of the Albigensians adhered to this. It was a heretical movement within the Albigensians that even the majority of the Albigensians opposed. I'll post some other resources for this later, but most liberal historians point to the heretical sect of the Albigensians merely because they were from Albi, France, in an attempt by the RCC to refute the Landmark Baptists who used the Waldensians, Cathars and Albigensians to show a form of apostolic succession to the early churches.

Gregory Perry Sr. · Jun 28, 2013

Yes

convicted1 said: ↑

It's been stated that God was "satan", and that Micheal was Jesus, no?
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To my recollection...yes. It might be helpful for the sake of clarity if you would post a link to the thread here on the BB to who said this and what thread it appeared in.

Bro.Greg:saint:

agedman · Jun 28, 2013

DrJamesAch said: ↑

Not all of the Albigensians adhered to this. It was a heretical movement within the Albigensians that even the majority of the Albigensians opposed. I'll post some other resources for this later, but most liberal historians point to the heretical sect of the Albigensians merely because they were from Albi, France, in an attempt by the RCC to refute the Landmark Baptists who used the Waldensians, Cathars and Albigensians to show a form of apostolic succession to the early churches.
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This is correct, James.

This group was doubly cursed, though. Not only did they stand in Scriptural error - because it came out of an area of the world that had extremely little true Scripture available, and what was preached was error upon error.

That and the RCC (by that time filled with growing error) felt completely threatened by them.

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