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Featured Experts: Syria Chemical Weapons Attack “Suspicious”

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  1. poncho

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    Impartial experts are casting doubt of the veracity of today’s alleged chemical weapons attack in Syria, with numerous observers labeling the timing of the story “suspicious”.

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    Russia suggests Syria ‘chemical attack’ was ‘planned provocation’ by rebels

    Dubious Chemical Weapons Attack In Syria Coincides With UN Visit

    Corporate Media Begins Chemical Attack Propaganda Ahead of Syrian Invasion

    Media sources base conclusions on information by CIA’s FSA and terror organizations al-Nusra and al-Qaeda.

    Fox News, dominated by the neocon faction of the global elite, has placed the blame for the chemical attack in Syria on the al-Assad regime despite a noticeable lack of evidence. Fox News and other establishment media sources are basing their conclusions on information provided by “Syrian opposition groups,” in other words the CIA’s Free Syrian Army and the terror organizations al-Nusra and al-Qaeda.

    Who benefits from a chemical attack? Washington, NATO and the murdering terrorists they fund and arm.

    Well, looks like it's just another day in the empire. Guess this will give the corporate elite's man in the WH his excuse to start bombing another country. Problem Reaction Solution.
     
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    Oh I believe folks in that regions have no problem lying about this stuff to gain sympathy. But it is also true that you don't want to believe it whether it is true or not.
     
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    West war crimes in Syria exposed

    The latest massacre occurred in the town of Khan al-Assal in the northern province of Aleppo. Some 150 people, mostly civilians, were reportedly slaughtered in cold blood. Many of the victims were shot in the head execution-style. The groups claiming responsibility are the al-Qaeda-linked al-Nusra Front and Ansar al Khalifa.

    Reliable sources say that the killers tried to cover up their barbaric crimes by mutilating the corpses and burning the remains. Only days before this orgy of murder, the same groups are believed to have massacred at least seven civilians in the town of Maqbara in the province of Hasakah.

    Elsewhere, as the Syrian national army makes searing advances against the militants, it is apparent from the identities of the dead that the majority of these fighters are foreigners, from Saudi Arabia, Libya, Jordan, Turkey, as well as from the US and Europe, including Britain, France and Germany.

    Just last week, it was reported that Saudi Arabia bought $50 million-worth of heavy arms from Israel to supply this foreign network in its endeavor to terrorize the people of Syria into submission.

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    Kind of reminds me of the weapons of mass destruction that were suppose to be all over Iraq. Why are we as a nation debating this? Why is it that the United States cannot stay out of the business of another sovereign state? I wonder if the Syrians and Egyptians are debating how Obamacare should be implemented.
     
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    Well they were in Iraq at one time. And we were concerned about that with Iraq because we were in as cease fire with them not a state of peace.
     
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    Just wait till a bunch of Russians get killed in Syria. Then it'll really be game on

    You know how Washington knew Saddam had weapons of mass destruction? They kept all the receipts..

    The Iraqi's were another proxy fighting force Washington funded and armed against Iran. Only Washington didn't hand the Iraqi's Libya's cache of surface to air missiles like it did it's multinational Islamic proxy fighting force in Syria.
     
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    Syria gas attack story has whiff of Saudi war propaganda

    Al Arabiya, the origin of the story, is not a neutral in the Syrian conflict. It was set up in 2002 by the Saudi Royal Family in Dubai. It is majority-owned by the Saudi broadcaster, Middle East Broadcasting Center (MBC). Saudi Arabia is a major financial backer of the attempt to topple Syria’s government. That is a matter of record. So on first glance Saudi-owned media reporting such an inflammatory anti-Assad allegation might be taken with a dose of salt.

    When we examine the printed content of their story, it gets more suspicious still. First they cite “activists at the Syrian Revolutionary Command Council said regime fighter planes were flying over the area after the bombardment, accusing the forces loyal to President Bashar al-Assad of using chemical agents.” This is doubtful on many levels. First we can imagine that anti-government (unnamed) “activists” fighting Assad’s forces would not be exactly neutral.

    The story gets even murkier. Further in the text of the article we read that the “Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said dozens of people were killed, including children, in fierce bombardment.” Now the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR) has been the source of every news report negative against the Syrian Assad government since the war began in 2011. More curious about the humanitarian-sounding SOHR is the fact, as uncovered by investigative journalists, that it consists of a sole Syrian refugee who has lived in London for the past 13 years named Rami Abdul Rahman, a Syrian Sunni muslim who owns a clothing shop and is running a Twitter page from his home. Partly owing to a very friendly profile story on the BBC, he gained mainstream media credibility. He is anything but unbiased.

    http://rt.com/op-edge/syria-gas-attack-chemical-propaganda-796/

    CIA spies 'smuggle 14 Stinger missiles into Syria so rebels can take out regime warplanes'

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/cia-spies-smuggle-14-stinger-1266487


     
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    Another chemical weapons expert has cast doubt on video footage which appears to show victims of a “gas attack” in Syria, noting that images of people foaming at the mouth appears “set-up” and is not consistent with the effects of a real chemical attack.

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    For a while it seemed as if the Egyptian situation would promptly escalate to all out war, and necessitate the US "liberation" of this or that interest or ideology (and certainly putting the Suez canal under US-controlled lockdown) until following a series of epically bungled missteps, Obama and John Kerry managed to alienate the Saudis and the Israelis who are firmly behind the new military countercoup government in Egypt, while the US still has to admit a coup ever happened. Which means only Plan B for middle-east escalation remains: Syria.

    Sure enough, this morning we woke up to the horrible news that hundreds of people had died following the use of nerve gas in an area close to Damascus in an attack that the "democratic" media, and the Qatari mercenaries, scrambled to pin on the Assad regime. Just like in June the US "found" Assad had used chemcial weapons, only for the UN and Russia to accuse the US of fabricating the data, and for the chemical weapon warehouse of the rebels to be uncovered shortly thereafter, which meant the Syria narrative would have to be put on hiatus for a few months: after all the lies were getting perilously close to those used by Bush in the Iraqi WMD fiasco.

    Well, the administration appears certain enough time has passed by and has relaunched the old "blame Assad" plotline, with the WSJ reporting minutes ago that the US "sees strong indications" that Syria's government used chemical weapons in the attacks. What those are it is unclear as the US does not actually have presence on the ground, and neither have any UN inspectors been able to investigate. But why not go for round two of the false flag fabrication: maybe this time it will fly?

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    The New York Times, the Washington Post, and the rest of the establishment media, so eager to blame the al-Assad government for the disputed chemical attack near Damascus, have failed to put the alleged event into its proper context, as usual.

    “The Obama administration gave green signal to a chemical weapons attack plan in Syria that could be blamed on President Bashar al Assad’s regime and in turn, spur international military action in the devastated country, leaked documents have shown,” Asian News International reported in January.


    ANI cited Infowars.com. On January 28, Paul Joseph Watson reported on hacked email from defense contractor Britam exposing a plan “approved by Washington” and funded by Qatar to stage a chemical weapons attack in Syria and blame it on the al-Assad regime.


    “We’ve got a new offer. It’s about Syria again. Qataris propose an attractive deal and swear that the idea is approved by Washington,” Britam Defense’s Business Development Director, David Goulding, wrote to the company’s founder, Philip Doughty.


    “We’ll have to deliver a CW to Homs, a Soviet origin g-shell from Libya similar to those that Assad should have. They want us to deploy our Ukrainian personnel that should speak Russian and make a video record.”


    See an image of the email here.


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    US-Trained Rebels Moved Towards Damascus Days Before ‘Chemical Attack’

    300 handpicked rebel militants trained by the US, Israel and Jordan entered Syria and began advancing towards Damascus in the days before an alleged chemical weapons attack, the
    French newspaper Le Figaro is reporting.


    “The rebels were trained for several months in a training camp on the Jordanian-Syrian border by CIA operatives, as well as Jordanian and Israeli commandos,” reports the Jerusalem Post.

    Four days before the announcement that a chemical weapons attack had taken place near Damascus, a group of FSA fighters crossed into the Deraa region, followed by a second contingent on August 19th.

    The CIA began conducting covert training of the rebels – despite their links to Al-Qaeda – late last year, advising them on how to use anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons.


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    Ok so what does training the rebels have to do with a chenical attack
     
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    Maybe nothing but why is the CIA, Israel and Jordan training rebels with ties to Al Qaeda on anti tank and anti aircraft weapons?

    Doesn't it seem a wee bit odd to you that Washington is training the same terrorist organization it claims to be waging a global war against?
     
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    Yes it does. I do not believe we should have anything to do with Syria.
     
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    Still believe the "war on terror" is about fighting terrorism?
     
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    Yes it is. Just because there are bad judgments or those who try to take advantage of it does not mean it is anything other than a war on terrorism.
     
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    Those "bad judgements" go all the way back to 1953 when the CIA first used terrorists and terrorism to over throw the Iranian govt and it's been doing the same thing all over the world since then.

    This is nothing new. It's not product of bad judgements from one administration. It's a long term policy that goes on no matter which political party is in power.

    You can't fight terrorism by funding and arming terrorists.

    But you can use terrorists to effect regime change in other nations while scaring the people of your own nation into giving the government unlimited power. Which is exactly what has been going on since 9/11/01.
     
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    Bypassing all claims of ‘conspiracy theory’, it was actually Yahoo News that published an eerily psychic piece that warned of moves by the Obama administration to launch a chemical attack in Syria and blame it on Assad’s regime.


    Laying out what is now history in clear text, the mainstream Yahoo report sourcing ANI reads (I have archived a screenshot of the page in case it is removed):
    “The Obama administration gave green signal to a chemical weapons attack plan in Syria that could be blamed on President Bashar al Assad’s regime and in turn, spur international military action in the devastated country, leaked documents have shown. As per the scheme ‘Qatar would fund rebel forces in Syria to usechemical weapons,’ the Daily Mail reports.”
    But maybe AIN and Yahoo News are conspiracy news organizations? After all, the very notion of a false flag is now considered treason in the mind of Obama drones. It is not politically correct to talk about how the Syrian rebels, who may have carried this out under Obama, are barbaric minions of Hell who revel in beheading all Christian families.

    PREDICTED MONTHS BEFORE
     
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    FLASHBACK To 2003

    A confidential record of a meeting between President Bush and Tony Blair before the invasion of Iraq, outlining their intention to go to war without a second United Nations resolution, will be an explosive issue for the official inquiry into the UK's role in toppling Saddam Hussein.


    The memo, written on 31 January 2003, almost two months before the invasion and seen by the Observer, confirms that as the two men became increasingly aware UN inspectors would fail to find weapons of mass destruction (WMD) they had to contemplate alternative scenarios that might trigger a second resolution legitimising military action.



    Bush told Blair the US had drawn up a provocative plan "to fly U2 reconnaissance aircraft painted in UN colours over Iraq with fighter cover". Bush said that if Saddam fired at the planes this would put the Iraqi leader in breach of UN resolutions.


    The president expressed hopes that an Iraqi defector would be "brought out" to give a public presentation on Saddam's WMD or that someone might assassinate the Iraqi leader. However, Bush confirmed even without a second resolution, the US was prepared for military action. The memo said Blair told Bush he was "solidly with the president".


    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2009/jun/21/iraq-inquiry-tony-blair-bush
     
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    Hundreds of videos showing apparent victims of a chemical weapons attack in Syria were uploaded to YouTube on August 20, a day before media reports say the attack actually happened, prompting Russia’s Foreign Ministry spokesman to assert the incident was a “pre-planned” provocation staged by rebels.

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    Preliminary Evidence Indicates that the Syrian Government Did NOT Launch a Chemical W

    CBS News reports that the U.S. is finalizing plans for war against Syria – and positioning ships to launch cruise missiles against the Syrian government – based on the claim that the Syrian government used chemical weapons against its people.
    The last time the U.S. blamed the Syrian government for a chemical weapons attack, that claim was was debunked.​
    But is the claim that the Syrian government used chemical weapons against its people true this time?​
    It’s not surprising that Syria’s close ally – Russia – is expressing doubt. Agence France-Presse (AFP) notes:​
    Russia, which has previously said it has proof of chemical weapons use by the rebels, expressed deep scepticism about the opposition’s claims.
    The foreign ministry said the timing of the allegations as UN inspectors began their work “makes us think that we are once again dealing with a premeditated provocation.”
    But Russia isn’t the only doubter.​
     
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    Despite an obvious lack of evidence the Syrian government was responsible for a chemical attack outside of Damascus earlier this week, Obama and British Prime Minister David Cameron have reached and understanding that a “serious response” aimed at the government of Bashar al-Assad and his military is in order.

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    The “evidence” upon which the West is propping up its narrative of the Syrian government using chemical weapons against large numbers of civilians hinges so far entirely on claims made by “Doctors Without Borders.” In the New York Times article, “Signs of Chemical Attack Detailed by Aid Group,” it is reported:

    < snip >

    While it is often described by the Western media as “independent,” nothing could be further from the truth.


    To begin with, Doctors Without Borders is fully funded by the very same corporate financier interests behind Wall Street and London’s collective foreign policy, including regime change in Syria and neighboring Iran. Doctors Without Borders’ own annual report (2010 report can be accessed here), includes as financial donors, Goldman Sachs, Wells Fargo, Citigroup, Google, Microsoft, Bloomberg, Mitt Romney’s Bain Capital, and a myriad of other corporate-financier interests. Doctors Without Borders also features bankers upon its Board of Advisers including Elizabeth Beshel Robinson of Goldman Sachs.


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    US Set to Launch 'Iraq, The Sequel', in Syria

    If you liked the run up to the US attack on Iraq, with the lurid fictional tales of mobile chemical weapons labs and Saddam's nukes, you will love "Iraq, The Sequel", currently unfolding in Syria. It is everything the interventionists have been hoping for: a heady brew of Kosovo, Iraq, and Libya all rolled into one. The possibility for an infinitely more
    toxic conflagration is exponentially higher, to boot, adding for the interventionists much excitement to the mix.

    Here is the latest:

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