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teaching the words pimp and mobstaz ?

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  1. pinoybaptist

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    Obama’s Common Core Program Teaching 4th Graders About ‘Pimp’ And ‘Mobstaz’
    SEPTEMBER 20, 2013 BY NEWSEDITOR
    from Western Center for Journalism
    is this true ? I hope not, but, if it is,what do y'all think of it.
     
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    and just listen to the principal.....'we do not like this, yadayadayada.......' oh, yeah ?
    so why is it in his school's curriculum ?
    if I were a dad I'd maybe give him a punch in the kisser and then tell him, "i did not like that, yadayadayada' then dump him in a dumpster where he belongs.
     
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    Well that was just ridiculous.

    But, it's not part of Common Core. There is no Common Core worksheets, books, or resources that come in a package sent to the teacher.

    Common Core is a list of standards, that's all. How you teach the standards is up to your school district. There are some teachers and school districts who put the resources that they make on-line, but they are not offical or national Common Core tools.

    For example, the states of New York, Georgia, and South Carolina have all of there resources on-line. Each is made of up different ideas but are all teaching the standards of Common Core.

    For example, here are the standards in math that I have been teaching the past 5 weeks.



    How I teach all of that is up to me. Some of these standards are in the book from last year, a few are not. So, I use other books, make up my own worksheets, and scan the internet to see what everyone else is using.

    And that's pretty much the way I've been teaching for years.
     
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    Well that was just ridiculous.

    But, it's not part of Common Core. There is no Common Core worksheets, books, or resources that come in a package sent to the teacher.

    Common Core is a list of standards, that's all. How you teach the standards is up to your school district. There are some teachers and school districts who put the resources that they make on-line, but they are not offical or national Common Core tools.

    For example, the states of New York, Georgia, and South Carolina have all of there resources on-line. Each is made of up different ideas but are all teaching the standards of Common Core.

    For example, here are the standards in math that I have been teaching the past 5 weeks.



    How I teach all of that is up to me. Some of these standards are in the book from last year, a few are not. So, I use other books, make up my own worksheets, and scan the internet to see what everyone else is using.

    And that's pretty much the way I've been teaching for years.
     
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    so, Scarlett O., what you're basically saying is how common core is taught is up to the teacher ? did I get that right ?
    if so, then the problem is with the teacher's mindset ?
    that still doesn't excuse the school who should be monitoring both teacher and student, I guess.
     
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    Yes, but within reason. It was that way before Common Core with some subjects. Before Common Core, in my state we had as standard Grade Level Expectations - written by the state department. Sometimes we would choose a book for everyone and sometimes a teacher would write their own resources or pull from somewhere else.

    Reason dictates that a school district makes those decision with the teachers' input or that teachers disclose their resources to their Curriculum director ahead of time. That's what we have to do.

    It's not necessarily willy-nilly. But apparently this teacher in the OP did not use common sense nor professionalism to choose a worksheet as stupid as that one.

    Being able to write your own resources and choose your own books in addition to the basal book is a good thing in the hands of competent teachers.

    This particular teacher, however, showed no thinking skills of her own. And yes, the department head, principal, teacher-supervisor, or curriculum coordinator should have seen this worksheet before it went out.
     
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    Really???

    THAT is the ridiculous part, Scarlett. Google "Common Core Curriculum" and you will get a whole first page of offerings for curriculae that state they are designed to "meet Common Core standards." I didn't bother to look at the second page, because of the top fifteen offerings on page one, eight of them were companies making this claim.

    Maybe you don't use a package. That doesn't mean there aren't teachers, and schools, that do. Given the plethora of available packages, I'm sure they are taught in thousands of classrooms.
     
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    double post
     
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    Yes, really. (And why the shouting?)

    Alright. I googled it. I don't know what your first page looked like, but here's my first page.

    https://www.google.com/#q=common+core+curriculum

    I see a couple of sites where some teachers have designed some things for use. And I see New York's resources that their teacher can use and others in other states can borrow. I've looked at that one and have borrowed a few math things.

    I see some negative articles about common core and public education in general.

    I see a wikipedia article.

    I see a couple of sites from Common core explaining Common Core.

    What I do NOT see was the authors of Common Core WRITING textbooks and other resources and packaging them up for all teachers throughout the land.

    Are you aware of what curriculum means? It's not a book or a workbook or a worksheet. It's a set of skills.


    I do use one workbook that has a title of "Common Core" math. But it's designed by a company who has ABSOLUTELY NO interest in the education of children - only profit. I found it in a bookstore and thought it would be useful.

    The Kindergarten - 6th grade math teachers were given a workbook to use from a different company - whose only interest is also profit - but they were told to use it only as they saw fit and necessary.

    YES, there are a host of individuals, books companies, universities, former teachers, and absolute disinterested parties who are making a FORTUNE off of the new curriculum by designing their own resources.

    It's been that way since education began.

    Districts sometimes employ them and sometimes they don't.

    But, and this is my last time to say. You are either going to believe me or not.

    The authors of Common Core have NOT issued a standard book.

    Now, the few times that I have had a conversation with you, you always tell me that I don't know what I'm talking about - so I can only assume that you will disregard anything I have to say here.

    And by-the-by, I wasn't going to call you out on this, but ...

    You said in a previous thread after I told you that my school district did indeed teach multiplication facts that all the "other school districts you have heard of did not teach them".

    How many school districts have you gone to and investigated whether or not multiplication facts are or are not taught?

    I realize that fundamental Christians despise what I do for a living and at every turn SOMEONE who does not know what that are talking about is going to give me grief about it.

    It's gets a little old.
     
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    Scarlett,

    First of all, let me say I am a Christian, and have the utmost respect for your occupation, and the character of your posts I have read for years. Any tool that gives knowledge to a student to make that person a future productive citizen is an profession to be proud of. We never get the exact quality of material we would desire, but we adapt what we have and do the best we can.

    I have been a substitute teacher for four years since retiring, and also work in an adult day care where I teach basic life skills. Full time teachers take a special type person, and the pay is certainly not the motivating factor. I hate to admit it, but I had to look up the meaning of the second word in the title of the thread.

    Even as a Sunday School teacher, the material put out on a week to week basis as a guide to teach is not Scripture, but one person's opinion of the Scripture for the week. Sometimes IMO the author gets the focal passage wrong. Sometimes they skip over lessons in verses that are quite important. I could go on and on. The point is, I take out the best of the commentary, read the verses, and present the lesson as I am lead by the Lord.

    You have the exact attitude needed to do what you do for a living, and God has you exactly where he wants you. Keep up the good work. I would not give a second thought to those who criticize you. Most probably do not have clue about teaching or raising kids.
     
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    That's not shouting. If it was, so was your usage of the bold-and-underline as opposed to my bold-and-italics would also be "shouting."

    THIS IS SHOUTING!! Got it?

    Sorry, this is a common error, one I made in making my post. You obviously didn't see the "Common COR curriculum" link below the oft-misapplied use of the word "core" ... "COR" meaning "Child Observation Record." Even the educators (obviously, you being one) don't know what COR is.

    This is what you get when you click on that link:

    https://www.google.com/#nfpr=1&q=common+cor+curriculum

    First, by your own definition, you're shouting, though I didn't think of it as being such when I read it. Secondly, that statement represents a changing of your comment. Sorry, that doesn't wash. Your first comment in the post to which I replied was ...

    Which, as I stated, is incorrect, though perhaps, I will admit, I was a bit too visually vociferous in making that statement. My apologies.

    Again, Really??? <-- not shouting

    I point out to you your own posted definition:

    Nothing in my previous post suggests I am calling a "curriculum" a "worksheet." It also is not a "set of skills." The study of a "curriculum" may result in a student having a "set of skills," but is not, in and of itself, that skill set.

    I really don't care what you use. I wish you would see the farce that "COR" curriculum really is. It is a dangerous set of standards that are documented to encourage teaching that eliminates national values, Americanism or rather, American exceptionalism, the study of federalism and majority rule (the core of our constitution) along with patriotic symbols like the Liberty Bell. Christopher Columbus, Rosh Hashanah and Christmas are all relegated to the dustbin along with American military history. Equality and a belief in justice is replaced by “fairness” and instruction on American propaganda and imperialism. As one example, a since-discarded outline for a history lesson (outline for a history lesson? tell me that's not a "curriculum guideline") compared the Boston Tea Party to a terrorist act.

    Texas has abandoned the usage of COR as a guidance for classroom lessons based on many of these controversies. COR is a bad idea and other states should also abandon it for the sake of our students, and (in reality) our nation.
     
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