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Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by tamborine lady, Oct 1, 2013.

  1. tamborine lady

    tamborine lady Active Member

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    What is the protocol for a pastor who started a church, built it up, furnished it with the help of the congregation doing fundraisers to buy furniture, computers, sound equipment etc.

    Then the Lord tells him to move on and start a church in another town. Is he allowed to take the furniture, sound equipment and everything and leave the original church with nothing. Or should it be left intact, and he starts another one and build it up like he did the first one?

    He has arranged for a new Pastor to take over the first church.

    I would really like to hear your thoughts on this one.
     
  2. Gib

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    They only thing he should be taking are things that belong to him. Everything else stays.
     
  3. tamborine lady

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    That was the thought of all the people who were staying. Some of the people that were going with him to the new church thought they should take everything with them.
     
  4. tamborine lady

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    In fact most of the ones that were going with him wanted to take all the stuff with them.
     
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    Thr fundraisers were for the church, not those leaving. If they feel called to leave they should not expect to take anything belonging to the churh
     
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    Agreed, I can't believe he would even suggest taking those things
     
  7. Revmitchell

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    It is illegal for him to take anything with him. I would question a pastor who thought doing that was appropriate for any reason.
     
  8. tamborine lady

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    He did take the name of the church with him. The pastor that took over gave it another name. Would that make a difference?
     
  9. steaver

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    Legally, I doubt it. Ethically, I wouldn't want him as my pastor for causing this rif
     
  10. Revmitchell

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    If the church let him do that then its on them. But if he thinks he owns the church then he isn't really a pastor. It seems he does not have a shepherds heart. It is all about him.
     
  11. tamborine lady

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    The church finally prevailed, and kept most of the stuff. Some musical equipment had been a gift from someone to the church. In the end there was a fairly large monetary settlement so the original church could keep some sound equipment.
     
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    That is a shame that the church had to do that.
     
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    steaver Well-Known Member
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    You know, it is sad some of the men who are allowed to reside in the pastoral across this country. This office is suppose to be blameless!
     
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    The assumption here is that the pastor was raising up articles for the church and that the Church is God's - not a personal toy of the Pastor doing the church building.

    Plus it is illegal to tell people that they are making a donation to Church-A - only to steal it for some other project as if the money belongs to you and not God, not the church.

    in Christ,

    Bob
     
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    He chose your new pastor? What denomination/group are you? You don't have a say in that vital decision?
     
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    That was one of my thoughts but there was enough shenanigans going on prior to that it became a moot point.
     
  17. tamborine lady

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    It is a non-denominational church, and Pastor run. He did ask the ones remaining if they would accept the new pastor. It started out as a friendly thing. The people that went with him already lived in the town where the new church was, so it all seemed reasonable until the "I'm taking this" started.

    I don't think it matters about the denomination, the rules should still be the same for all churches in such matters.
     
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    I would love to see the constitution and by-laws of the church.
     
  19. Tom Bryant

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    Unfortunately, there are different ways a church is governed based on their denomination. For a baptist, the pastor is chosen by the church members. In Methodist, I believe, the district supervisor chooses a pastor for the church usually after some consultation with the members. In RCC, the Bishop sends the priests.

    So denominations do matter.

    Regardless, I'll be praying for your church.
     
  20. tamborine lady

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    No matter what the rules are I know that most Pastors don't take the furniture when they leave, no matter what denomination it is.
     
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